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Euhelopus zdanskyi
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Euhelopus zdanskyi
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Euhelopus zdanskyi
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Crows use casual reasoning
Isn't the Dinosauria section for non-avian dinosaurs only? Anyway, that's more proof that dinosaurs are not dumb...

Daxiatitan binglingi
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Daxiatitan binglingi
Daxiatitan binglingi

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Temporal range: Early Cretaceous

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Sauropsida
Superorder: Dinosauria
Order: Saurischia
Suborder: Sauropodomorpha
Infraorder: Sauropoda
(unranked): Titanosauria
Superfamily: Titanosauroidea
Genus: Daxiatitan
Species: D. binglingi You et al., 2008 (type)

Length: 30 meters
Mass: 25-30 tonnes?

Daxiatitan is a genus of titanosauriform dinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of Lanzhou Basin, Gansu Province, northwestern China. It is known from fossils including several neck vertebrae, a shoulder blade, and a thigh bone.

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Daxiatitan binglingi femur

It was a very large dinosaur, similar to both Euhelopus and Huanghetitan, with an enormously long neck.

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Daxiatitan binglingi skeletal, scale bar = 1 meter

Honey Badger runs a gauntlet
Ornitholestes kills that badger, who doesn't even care about it's own mortality...

Zoology vs Paleontology
P a l e o n t o l o g y

Nothing00 vs SuperGuerreroXY
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Debate: African Lion vs Eastern Lowland Gorilla


  • Both debaters have 3 weeks to discuss
  • Both members are allowed to post a maximum of 250 times a day, no more
  • After 3 weeks, unbiased juries will decide who's winning the debate
  • Debate is won by who provided more reason and showed more reliable evidence


  • The debate will take 3 weeks
  • The debates will take place in the inter-specific conflicts section of Carnivora
  • Nobody other than the two debates will be aloud to post in the topic

Mapusaurus size
I think Mapusaurus was larger than Tyrannosaurus

Broome Titanosaur
I hate overly minimalistic estimates...

Common Eland v Giraffe
Eland can kill a Tyrannosaurus rex, what can a giraffe do?
lol lol lol
I just can't take eland related threads seriously after Ursus panthera's posts lol

Your dinosaur art
Austrosaurus mckillopi
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Size comparison requests!
European Torvosaurus and Hippopotamus

Swarmlord's "You Run the Gauntlet!"
I'll pick the spear, to keep the distance...but I would only have like, 5-10% chance against Herrerasaurus...it can reach large sizes...

Hypothetical 35-meter Apatosaurus vs 6 African Bush Elephants
Sep 18 2012, 08:03 PM
When the Apatosaurus became 92tonnes ? A brachiosaurus is 50 tonnes only. Apatosaurus weighs as much as 5 Elephants... 30 tonnes.
This is a hypothetical 35-meter Apatosaurus...this isn't Apatosaurus ajax/exclesus/louisae, this is a completely different species...the 30 tonne estimate belongs to the Apatosaurus in the 22-25 meter range...

The Problem With Amphicoelias
Ok, so I was wrong, Amphicoelias isn't 150 tonnes, it was 270 tonnes...

Black Ice runs the gauntlet!
Stops at me, T. rex is so tiny in comparison to A. fragillimus, one size comparison image from me would tip that debate completely in my favor...

Broome Titanosaur
Sep 19 2012, 05:41 AM
The Blue Whale remains the largest animal in records to date.
Giant Ichyosaur > Blue Whale
Balaenoptera sibbaldina >? Blue Whale
Parabrontopodus distercii > Blue Whale
Brome Titanosauriform > Blue Whale (by about 20-40 tonnes)

Yes, Zammit (2010) wrote:

New Zealand has mostly Triassic specimens, with isolated ichthyosaur bones occurring on both the North and South islands (Fig. 1B). The first reported finds originated from the Mount Potts region near Canterbury, South Island (Hector 1874, 1879), and have since been referred to the Middle Triassic (Table 1) Daonella Zone (lower Carnian; Campbell & Warren 1965). These remains comprise indeterminate vertebral centra of extremely large dimensions (457 mm in diameter, Hector 1878) that appear to represent one of the largest ichthyosaurs in the world (Campbell 1965, Fleming et al. 1971). This is almost double the diameter of centra known from Shonisaurus sikanniensis, an animal well known as a giant (Nicholls & Manabe 2004). Unfortunately, these particular specimens can not be located, and are presumed to have been either sent to the US with other marine reptile bones that have now vanished (Cox 1991), or alternatively lost on the transport ship Matoaka, which disappeared en route to London (Hector 1874, Brazier et al. 1990). Hector (1874) diagnosed this material, together with several smaller vertebral centra from Rocky Gully, near Mount Potts, as Ichthyosaurus australis (a name pre-occupied by an Australian species). Replacement names include I. hectori (Lydekker 1889, Chapman 1914) and I. pottsi (see Fleming et al. 1971), though none is currently considered valid. This material was assigned to the Mixosauridae by Campbell (1965), but was later regarded as simply ichthyosaurian due to a lack of diagnostic features (Fleming et al. 1971).

For comparison, Shastasaurus had 22 cm vertebrae...
The Giant Ichyosaur was possibly over 40 meters long...and over 200 tonnes...

Second: Carpenter got the size of the diplodocus vertebra he scaled A. fragillimus from, wrong...
The actual diplodocus d9 vertebra was something like 90-100 cm tall, Carpenter made it 122 cm

Lastly: Why can't people just accept that the largest animal didn't live in the holocene?

Blue Whale is dethroned

African Bush Elephant v Stegosaurus
50 / 50

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