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Best matches for dodo?
Topic Started: Feb 12 2014, 11:25 AM (2,565 Views)
Vivyx
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Hmmm... tough question.

Quite interested in the possibility of suggesting some dodo match-ups just for the sake of seeing how well they would fare against certain opponents.

Was initially thinking along the lines of some sort of hare, but I realized that dodos would be way too big for them... there actually was a giant rabbit from Minorca called Nuralagus, but I don't think it would be as capable in fighting as modern rabbits/hares.

Could a mute swan v dodo match-up be interesting? They are quite aggressive, and do have the capacity to kill each other:

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Hannibal was the name given to a male swan who attacked as many as 37 other swans, killing 15 of them. The swan had been living with his mate and their cygnet in Castle Pond near Pembroke Castle, located in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. In February 2010, Hannibal began attacking any other swans who ventured into Castle Pond from the nearby Mill Pond. Hannibal would beat other swans with his wings, beak, and feet. If they remained in the pond, he would hold his victims' heads underwater until they drowned. If they attempted to leave the pond, Hannibal would "smash their feet to smithereens with his beak."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_(swan)

Don't really know what else to suggest, though.
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DinosaurMichael
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None really, the fact like Moas that Dodos evolved on an island without predators to fear doesn't have fighting experience which resulted in their extinctions when humans arrived.
Edited by DinosaurMichael, Mar 17 2017, 08:39 AM.
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Ceratodromeus
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Because they certainly didn't engage in intraspecific conflicts right? I think it's incredibly tiresome to read this kind of cop out answer.
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Nergigante
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black jackrabbit vs dodo?


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Grazier
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The dodo's big heavy beak and large size makes me think it was actually probably very formidable, in it's own way. I know it's considered a big joke for going extinct as soon as people came across it but humans had a similar affect on most animals they encountered as they migrated out of africa, including lots of very impressive cool ones.
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DinosaurMichael
Mar 17 2017, 08:39 AM
None really, the fact like Moas that Dodos evolved on an island without predators to fear doesn't have fighting experience which resulted in their extinctions when humans arrived.
link 1, link 2, link 3

Dodos were said to have used their beaks in defence sometimes, and that "strokes of their bills" could inflict some good injuries on men and other opponents.

I think that they would have had intraspecific conflict too.




@Mastodon, I see where you are coming from with that request; a fight between two island animals. That being said, I think that the dodo would be too big. I also outlined that I would have thought a leporid v dodo fight could have been interesting, but I don't think that there is any leporid that is big or formidable enough to be able to actually combat the much larger dodo (there was a large extinct rabbit called Nuralagus rex, but it doesn't have the adaptations that would have made a leporid an already formidable opponent e.g. the lack of a long and stringy spine, and being quite peaceful/quiet). We already have two leporid v bird match-ups that are quite close (European (Common) Rabbit v Weka is admittedly one-sided, but rabbit v rooster and brown hare v western capercaillie seem quite close).

Maybe a female dodo v male coconut crab match-up could be interesting (I'm aware that Ceph suggested that in this thread before)? They did interact in the past after all...
Edited by Vivyx, Mar 18 2017, 01:48 AM.
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Nergigante
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Wolverine vs dodo? Is there any similar sized mustelid?
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Wolverine v dodo is a mismatch i'd imagine.
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Nergigante
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Your right, the dodo is too powerful, what about a similar sized ora?
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Your right, the dodo is too powerful, what about a similar sized ora?

oh no
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Nergigante
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You don't think a similar sized ora has a chance against the mighty dodo? Ok what about this, what about a banded mongoose pack agaisnt the dodo?
Edited by Nergigante, Mar 18 2017, 04:52 AM.
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Subfossil remains show the dodo was about 1 metre (3 ft 3 in) tall and may have weighed 10.6–21.1 kg (23–47 lb)

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The tibiotarsus of Garganornis is approximately 30% larger than that of the living Mute Swan in circumference. Based on comparisons with the latter, it has been estimated that Garganornis had a weight in the range of 15–22 kilograms (33–49 lb), larger than any living anatid. This suggests that it was likely flightless.
Garganornis ballmanni

Similar weight, both thought to be flightless
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