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Who wins?
African Wild Dog 5 (71.4%)
Collared Peccary (Javelina) 2 (28.6%)
Total Votes: 7
African Wild Dog v Collared Peccary (Javelina)
Topic Started: Mar 4 2014, 08:21 PM (3,370 Views)
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African Wild Dog - Lycaon pictus
Lycaon pictus is a large canid found only in Africa, especially in savannas and lightly wooded areas. It is variously called the African wild dog, African hunting dog, Cape hunting dog, painted dog, painted wolf, painted hunting dog, spotted dog, or ornate wolf. he scientific name "Lycaon pictus" is derived from the Greek for "wolf" and the Latin for "painted". It is the only canid species to lack dewclaws on the forelimbs. This is the largest African canid and, behind only the gray wolf, is the world's second largest extant wild canid. Adults typically weigh 18–36 kilograms (40–79 lb). A tall, lean animal, it stands about 75 cm (30 in) at the shoulder, with a head and body length of 75–141 cm (30–56 in) plus a tail of 30 to 45 cm (12 to 18 in). Animals in southern Africa are generally larger than those in eastern or western Africa. There is little sexual dimorphism, though judging by skeletal dimensions, males are usually 3-7% larger. The African wild dog's main prey varies among populations but always centers around medium-to-large sized ungulates, such as the impala, Thomson's Gazelle, Springbok, kudu, reedbuck, and wildebeest calves. The most frequent single prey species depends upon season and local availability. For example, in the Serengeti in the 1970s wildebeest (mostly calves) were the most frequently taken species (57%) from January to June, but Thompsons gazelle were the most frequently taken (79%) during the rest of the year.

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Collared Peccary (Javelina) - Pecari tajacu
The collared peccary (Pecari tajacu) is a species of mammal in the family Tayassuidae that is found in North, Central, and South America. They are commonly referred to as javelina, saíno or báquiro, although these terms are also used to describe other species in the family. The species is also known as the musk hog and Mexican hog. In Trinidad, it is colloquially known as quenk. Although somewhat related to the pigs and frequently referred to as one, this species and the other peccaries are no longer classified in the pig family, Suidae. The collared peccary stands around 0.5 meters (20-24 inches) tall at the shoulder and it is about 1-1.5 meters (40-60 inches) long. It weighs between 16 and 27 kilograms (35 and 60 lbs). Although they usually ignore humans, they will react if they feel threatened. They defend themselves with their long tusks, which can sharpen themselves whenever their mouths open or close. A collared peccary will also release a strong musk if it is alarmed.

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Catboy
Mar 4 2014, 05:54 AM
African Wild Dog vs Collared Peccary or African Wild Dog pair of 2 vs Chacoan Peccary
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AWD, I think most people would know by now that these dogs are known for there killings on ungulates that are bigger or similar in size to a peccary.
The African Wild Dog has only a small size advantage at average weights, but most predators don't necessarily have to have a large size advantage over a herbivore to win (some exceptions include horse, wild boar, etc), and it has a bigger size advantage at maximum weights than at average weights, which thus gives it a good advantage over the peccary at maximum weights. Also, I think that the peccary will find it hard to deal with the AWD disemboweling and ripping out bits of skin out of it.

The peccary will give it a hard time with it's fangs and durability, sure. But I think that in the end, the wild dog will succeed with it's speed, agility, size advantage and good weaponry of it's own will give it the win here.
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Anyone else wanna share their opinion on this match-up
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I guess I favor the dog for the same reasons you said.
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The Dog wins, it is more well-armed and it has a size advantage. This size advantage doesn't matter but it just means that the Dog has the necessary advantages to win more often than not.
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I think you all are being way too impulsive with your verdicts. The size range of the peccary is almost identical to that of the African wild dog, with the lower limits being around 3 feet (1m) in length and the upper limits bordering 5 feet (about 1.5 meters; although an exceptionally large african wild dog can be a good half a foot (10 or more centimeters) larger than the javelina). They are also fairly well-matched for weight, with the colarred peccary approaching masses of 60 lbs (~30 kg) and the African wild dog occasionally boasting 70 lbs. That having been said, African wild dogs are pack hunters, and their offensive and evasive strategies are bound to their cooperative abilities. They can be vicious adversaries alone, but it would be easy to overestimate them. This in mind, it is incredibly easy to do just the opposite insult to the javelina. They have incredibly formidable canines (larger than the dog's; do a quick search if you aren't convinced) and are almost equally matched for speed and reaction time. We also have to keep in mind that they have to defend themselves from far more ferocious predators, namely the jaguar, which is overwhelmingly large. And even then, they manage to hold their own quite well. For the sake of the argument, I present to you proof of the peccary's martial prowess:

This is a female peccary faced with a couple of jaguars, and even having sustained injury she can make the impressive retaliation seen at 3:48.
It's also worth noting that the warthog is a very good representative of the peccary, being somewhat closely related and having almost identical size and weight ranges, and African wild dogs seldom dare approach warthogs on their own. Even in a pack, the pigs can be vicious contenders, so I imagine the fight between an African wild dog and colarred peccary would be extremely close, but I give a slight advantage to the peccary.
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Marek
Mar 5 2014, 12:26 PM
The size range of the peccary is almost identical to that of the African wild dog, with the lower limits being around 3 feet (1m) in length
Length is a dimension measurement, it isn't size.
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Sure, peccaries are dangerous with impressive weaponry. But remember that a cat needs to overpower it's prey to kill it, an AWD is different. An AWD can pretty much bite anywhere including the neck. Also the African Wild Dog can be extremely dangerous to animals like similar sized ungulates. The African Wild Dog will find it difficult, but it will eventually reach the neck and kill it
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Tough one, suids are one of the most difficult prey items for canids to take.

The general rule of thumb is a simmilar sized suid should be able to take a simmilar sized canid. It's all well and good to show what a lone AWD can do to an impala, but from what I've seen it takes a large pack a good amount of time to dispatch a warthog.

Also, whilst Peccaries are by no means the biggest boars around the damage they've done to physically, more robust dogs than the AWD is quite severe:

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At the moment I back the AWD by a slight margin, t it is sufficiently agile enough to employ the usual bite and retreat method of wild canid hunting behavior, and given a long, protracted battle would drain the peccary down.
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Yeah it is a difficult fight but I back the AWD
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Mar 6 2014, 06:38 AM
Yeah it is a difficult fight but I back the AWD
I second that.
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Mar 5 2014, 12:26 PM
I think you all are being way too impulsive with your verdicts. The size range of the peccary is almost identical to that of the African wild dog, with the lower limits being around 3 feet (1m) in length and the upper limits bordering 5 feet (about 1.5 meters; although an exceptionally large african wild dog can be a good half a foot (10 or more centimeters) larger than the javelina). They are also fairly well-matched for weight, with the colarred peccary approaching masses of 60 lbs (~30 kg) and the African wild dog occasionally boasting 70 lbs. That having been said, African wild dogs are pack hunters, and their offensive and evasive strategies are bound to their cooperative abilities. They can be vicious adversaries alone, but it would be easy to overestimate them. This in mind, it is incredibly easy to do just the opposite insult to the javelina. They have incredibly formidable canines (larger than the dog's; do a quick search if you aren't convinced) and are almost equally matched for speed and reaction time. We also have to keep in mind that they have to defend themselves from far more ferocious predators, namely the jaguar, which is overwhelmingly large. And even then, they manage to hold their own quite well. For the sake of the argument, I present to you proof of the peccary's martial prowess:

This is a female peccary faced with a couple of jaguars, and even having sustained injury she can make the impressive retaliation seen at 3:48.
It's also worth noting that the warthog is a very good representative of the peccary, being somewhat closely related and having almost identical size and weight ranges, and African wild dogs seldom dare approach warthogs on their own. Even in a pack, the pigs can be vicious contenders, so I imagine the fight between an African wild dog and colarred peccary would be extremely close, but I give a slight advantage to the peccary.
I've seen this video and I find it mighty impressive for a animal that size to stand its ground against two jaguars. Plus peccary are faster then people give credit for. African wild dogs are impressive animals too.
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The african wild dog is slightly larger. They have exceptionally quick reflexes and agility for a canine. I think they have more agility and explosiveness than most other dogs. It is lightly built and have great endurance, making them very good runners. The peccary is the more powerfully built animal with greater strength and superior durability due to having a more rotund lower to the ground sort of build. The african wild dog has a powerful bite, and probbaly shakes its head after biting (could be wrong on that) to increase pain and damage. The paccary has powerful bite too, with long tusks. The peccary is at a disadvantage win it comes to agility. It is not as flexible and may not be able to get off a meaningful bite. However the wild dog could struggle to get in good bites. It would need to get around the head and mouth of the peccary, and its bites would probably has less effect than the peccary's. Slight early edge to the peccary.
Edited by The All-seeing Night, Mar 6 2014, 09:25 AM.
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The African Wild Dog can go under the peccary and kill it by biting it's neck, but I am probably going too far by saying that. Anyway, I agree that this isn't an easy fight. The African Wild Dog would tear chunks out of the peccary, but it will have to face the tusks first which will cause injury.
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This "slight size advantage" is hardly even relevant, in my opinion.
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