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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 8 2014, 09:42 PM (22,004 Views) | |
| Taipan | Mar 8 2014, 09:42 PM Post #1 |
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Wolverine - Gulo gulo The Wolverine is a stocky and muscular animal, considered carnivorous but known on occasion to eat plant material. It has glossy brown hair with stripes of yellow along the sides. The fur is long and dense and does not retain much water, making it very resistant to frost in the wolverine's cold habitat (this has led to some popularity amongst hunters and trappers for its use as a lining in jackets and parkas). The adult Wolverine is about the size of a medium dog, with a length in the usual range of 65-87 cm (25-34 inches), a tail of 17-26 cm (7-10 inches), and weight of 10-20 kg (22-45 lb). Males of the species are as much as 30 percent larger than the females. In appearance the Wolverine resembles a small bear with a long tail. It has been known to give off a very strong, extremely unpleasant odor, giving rise to the nicknames "skunk bear" and "nasty cat." ![]() Human - Homo sapiens Humans (known taxonomically as Homo sapiens, Latin for "wise man" or "knowing man") are the only living species in the Homo genus. Anatomically modern humans originated in Africa about 200,000 years ago, reaching full behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago. Humans have a highly developed brain and are capable of abstract reasoning, language, introspection, and problem solving. This mental capability, combined with an erect body carriage that frees the hands for manipulating objects, has allowed humans to make far greater use of tools than any other living species on Earth. Human body types vary substantially. Although body size is largely determined by genes, it is also significantly influenced by environmental factors such as diet and exercise. The average height of an adult human is about 1.5 to 1.8 m (5 to 6 feet) tall, although this varies significantly from place to place and depending on ethnic origin. The average mass of an adult human is 54–64 kg (120–140 lbs) for females and 76–83 kg (168–183 lbs) for males. Weight can also vary greatly (e.g. obesity). Unlike most other primates, humans are capable of fully bipedal locomotion, thus leaving their arms available for manipulating objects using their hands, aided especially by opposable thumbs.
Edited by Taipan, Dec 28 2014, 02:00 PM.
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| animalkingdom | Jul 6 2016, 10:26 PM Post #91 |
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i will probably do not let wolverine come close to my feet i will just punch his head,and hold pin down his head and few punches on head from there and just throw wolverine on ground and jump on it. no animal voilence. |
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| Black Panther | Jul 6 2016, 10:46 PM Post #92 |
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you wont it it near your feet but you will let it near your hands? and jumping on it means its going to be near your feet. |
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| animalkingdom | Jul 6 2016, 11:09 PM Post #93 |
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i said when i throw wolverine on ground,how wolverine gonna attack me if i jump after throwing wolverine on ground. |
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| Hojack Norseman | Jul 6 2016, 11:14 PM Post #94 |
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The human is way too large for the wolverine. The average man will win 8/10 times but would need stitches. |
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| HerpestidaeB4Cat | Jul 7 2016, 06:54 AM Post #95 |
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its mental strenght as well as physical once that wolverine locks its jaws into your hand or your feet in case you are bare footed you are going to scream so loud people on the third floor will probably hear you |
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| Molosser | Jul 7 2016, 07:06 AM Post #96 |
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The problem here is your average human has to fight nothing (except maybe his wife/gf). Any man who has the right mentality and mindset is likely to win, especially if he's allowed to use his surroundings (a branch or a stone). But the average desk employee would probably spend the best part of this fight flailing around and pissing his pants. |
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| SquamataOrthoptera | Jul 7 2016, 07:18 AM Post #97 |
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15 year old keyboard warrior!
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An average Joe would probably lose IMO. A survivalist however or a native would win 9/10 |
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| Ceratodromeus | Jul 7 2016, 09:51 AM Post #98 |
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because you aren't going to be throwing a wolverine probably. |
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| Black Panther | Jul 7 2016, 11:16 AM Post #99 |
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Well unless your using your hands to use the force your hands are gonna come in contact with the wolverine. And it won't just stand there and let you throw it. |
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| Hojack Norseman | Jul 7 2016, 12:58 PM Post #100 |
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The man will overcome his fear and the pain of the bite once the adrenaline sets in. The man just has too much of a size advantage over the wolverine. |
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| AminCarn | Apr 8 2018, 05:30 PM Post #101 |
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I've found a few videos that I think give us a better idea of how a wolverine would fare in a fight vs a human. First, the tenacity of the wolverine is confirmed by this video of a wolverine attacking a reindeer in a snowstorm in Norway: Notice its agility, fearlessness and determination. One thing worth noting is that Norweigan reindeer are domesticated and known to be very easy to overpower. But still, the reindeer is clearly in good physical condition, and much larger than the wolverine, and yet the wolverine is able to consistently get a hold of it and do damage. One impression left on me by the video is that the speed/agility and aggressiveness of the wolverine would make it terrifying to fight. Here's a video of a member of a species closely related to wolverines, a yellow throated marten, attacking a langur, which is a species relatively closely related to humans, which might give us an idea of how a human would fare against a wolverine, especially so given the size difference between the two is about the same as the one between humans and wolverines: Martens and similarly sized mustelids are able to kill rabbits many times their size because rabbits will run, which will give the mustelid access to its neck. The monkey stands its ground, which perhaps makes it a harder kill for the marten. The monkey's long and dextrous arms also seem like a counter to the marten's dexterity. Humans would have one major advantage over the langur: they have been predators for most of their evolutionary history, rather than herbivores. This makes the human likely more aggressive and physiologically and psychologically capable of doing damage to another animal. Another advantage a human would have over the langur is bipedalism. The height advantage this gives over the low to the ground wolverine would make it much more difficult for the wolverine to get a hold of the human's neck/throat. Height also gives the human the additional force potential of striking from above. In my final assessment, I have to take into consideration the gender of the contestants. Humans, being a social species with a high degree of gender role specialization, are highly sexually dimorphic. This goes far beyond just weight differences. Females have much less upper body strength than males, because males are evolved to do both the fighting and big-game hunting. I think in a fight against a wolverine, upper body strength would be critical, because without it, the human cannot do significant enough damage to the wolverine to degrade its fighting ability before the wolverine degrades the human's. So I think a human female would fare very poorly against a female wolverine. I also think that given the human female's evolutionary role as a nurturer within a social group that delegated fighting to males, matching one up against with a wolverine female, which is evolved to hunt and fight, is not a fair fight. So, the male wolverine vs human matchup is much more reasonable. In terms of size, I think that we should take the global average height of an adult male, of 5'7", since that's probably closer to that of hunter-gatherer humans. It's only fair since animals, including the wolverine, can get much larger when they grow up in captivity. For weight, I'd put the adult male at 145 lb, given hunter gatherers were much leaner than modern humans. A hunter gatherer in warmer regions like the Brazilian rainforest is typically smaller than 5'7", but given the wolverine lives in colder climates, it's probably more fair to compare them to humans which are evolved for colder climates, who tend to be larger. Behaviourally, I also don't think matching up a human with a modern lifestyle with a wild wolverine is fair. Instead, let's assume the human has lived in the woods by themselves for a year, and had to spend all their time hiking, and hunting. The fight happens when this hypothetical human comes across a wolverine, without weapons, and is forced into a fight to the death. My verdict is that the adult male human will win almost every fight, simply because its size and height advantage is too much for the wolverine, and the wolverine would be unable to exploit its speed against the human the way it does against deer and other herbivores, owing to the human's natural fighting ability and more dextrous arms. The ability of the human to grapple the wolverine and take it to the ground would prevent the wolverine from repeatedly withdrawing and attacking until the human is worn down. The bites that the wolverine delivers could in many cases end up killing the human after the fight has concluded though. The human stands a very good chance of winning the fight but coming out with severe injuries. I think the fact that humans are naturally well-matched against wolverines is why there haven't been more wolverine attacks. Wolverines are probably highly capable of assessing their chances of bringing down an animal, and assess humans as well-matched against them. Edited by AminCarn, Apr 8 2018, 05:52 PM.
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| k9boy | Apr 8 2018, 08:30 PM Post #102 |
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a grown man will stomp the hell out of a wolverine. |
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| Taipan | Apr 8 2018, 08:52 PM Post #103 |
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I would hope so. Here is a Wolverine and a man together demonstrating the size advantage we have: (2.25 - 3.45 min.) |
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| CanineCanis | Apr 8 2018, 10:27 PM Post #104 |
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Wolverines are tough, so it would probably be a pain in the arse when trying to kill them, but the human will prevail |
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| ScottishWildcat | Apr 8 2018, 11:56 PM Post #105 |
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While I would favour a ‘natural’ man over a wolverine, and think a modern man would ultimately win but suffer severe injuries, I feel like people on this forum are vastly overestimating their own ability to take on a wolverine and emerge unscathed. If anyone wants to post a video of their efforts and prove me wrong be my guest! |
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