Lions vs Leopards; Compilation thread

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Lions vs Leopards; Compilation thread
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Luipaard	Jun 7 2018, 04:11 AM Post #211
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #2,402 Joined: Apr 18, 2014	Not the first time I see a leopard surviving such an encounter... Simply amazing.



221Extra	Jun 7 2018, 05:07 AM Post #212
Deny, deny, deny. Posts: 1,830 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: Jan 11, 2012	Leopards never cease to amaze me.



k9boy	Jun 7 2018, 05:34 AM Post #213
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	tigress has male leopard treed



Fang Fatalis	Jun 11 2018, 10:45 AM Post #214
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 138 Group: Members Member #4,875 Joined: Apr 20, 2018	Male lion didn't seem like it really wanted to catch this leopard



Taipan	Jun 11 2018, 09:51 PM Post #215
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Lioness climbs tree, fights male Leopard Tingana (Mark1977 claims him to 'big' : here), Tingana defeated runs off, and the Lioness claims his prize: Fang Fatalis Jun 11 2018, 10:45 AM Male lion didn't seem like it really wanted to catch this leopard Yes, he just wanted the food. It does fall into the pattern of the three typical outcomes though, in the interactions between these species: 1. The Leopard runs for its life, (with or without receiving a mauling) often surrendering its kill. 2. The Leopard is badly mauled and dies. 3. The Leopard is killed. Edited by Taipan, Jun 11 2018, 10:22 PM.



Luipaard	Jun 12 2018, 01:55 AM Post #216
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #2,402 Joined: Apr 18, 2014	Taipan Jun 11 2018, 09:51 PM Lioness climbs tree, fights male Leopard Tingana (Mark1977 claims him to 'big' : here), Tingana defeated runs off, and the Lioness claims his prize:<br /><br /> <br /> Fang Fatalis Jun 11 2018, 10:45 AM <br /><br />Male lion didn't seem like it really wanted to catch this leopard <br /><br />Yes, he just wanted the food. It does fall into the pattern of the three typical outcomes though, in the interactions between these species:<br /><br />1. The Leopard runs for its life, (with or without receiving a mauling) often surrendering its kill.<br />2. The Leopard is badly mauled and dies.<br />3. The Leopard is killed.<br /><br /> How about this? 1. the leopard flees becouse he's outsized and outnumbered (most of the times) 2. the leopard is cornered and will stand it's ground, fighting off the lion(s) 3. the lion(s) kill the leopard (usually cub, subadult or female) Edited by Luipaard, Jun 12 2018, 01:58 AM.



Fang Fatalis	Jun 12 2018, 05:05 AM Post #217
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 138 Group: Members Member #4,875 Joined: Apr 20, 2018	Taipan Jun 11 2018, 09:51 PM Lioness climbs tree, fights male Leopard Tingana (Mark1977 claims him to 'big' : here), Tingana defeated runs off, and the Lioness claims his prize: Fang Fatalis Jun 11 2018, 10:45 AM Male lion didn't seem like it really wanted to catch this leopard Yes, he just wanted the food. It does fall into the pattern of the three typical outcomes though, in the interactions between these species: 1. The Leopard runs for its life, (with or without receiving a mauling) often surrendering its kill. 2. The Leopard is badly mauled and dies. 3. The Leopard is killed. What I gather from Lion-Leopard interactions, is that the Leopard is so formidable as an adversary, that even Lions are forced to respect them; and that more often than not, a single Lion(male or female) isn't enough to outright kill a tom Leopard... Many instances of male Lions not taking full advantage of the opportunity to actively engage male Leopards, even when they are in the perfect position; we see them half-heartedly stalking these Leopards...almost seeming to want to alert the Leopard to there presence-scaring & chasing them off, as opposed to being 100% intent on making a kill from such an advantageous position...



Flesh	Jun 12 2018, 05:17 AM Post #218
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 133 Group: Members Member #4,898 Joined: May 24, 2018	Mother leopard distracts 2 lionesses to protect her cubs



jilot	Jun 12 2018, 05:41 AM Post #219
Unicellular Organism Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,840 Joined: Mar 10, 2018	Luipaard Jun 12 2018, 01:55 AM Taipan Jun 11 2018, 09:51 PM Lioness climbs tree, fights male Leopard Tingana (Mark1977 claims him to 'big' : here), Tingana defeated runs off, and the Lioness claims his prize:<br /><br /> <br /> Fang Fatalis Jun 11 2018, 10:45 AM <br /><br />Male lion didn't seem like it really wanted to catch this leopard <br /><br />Yes, he just wanted the food. It does fall into the pattern of the three typical outcomes though, in the interactions between these species:<br /><br />1. The Leopard runs for its life, (with or without receiving a mauling) often surrendering its kill.<br />2. The Leopard is badly mauled and dies.<br />3. The Leopard is killed.<br /><br /> How about this? 1. the leopard flees becouse he's outsized and outnumbered (most of the times) 2. the leopard is cornered and will stand it's ground, fighting off the lion(s) 3. the lion(s) kill the leopard (usually cub, subadult or female) No. Lions have killed adult male leopards many times, the lion is also dominant over leopards and doesnt hesitate to kill a leopard in any situation.



Taipan	Jun 12 2018, 08:59 AM Post #220
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Fang Fatalis Jun 12 2018, 05:05 AM What I gather from Lion-Leopard interactions, is that the Leopard is so formidable as an adversary, that even Lions are forced to respect them; and that more often than not, a single Lion(male or female) isn't enough to outright kill a tom Leopard... This thread probably gave you that wrong opinion. I suggest you read widely rather than form an opinion from cherry picked youtube videos Fang Fatalis Jun 12 2018, 05:05 AM Many instances of male Lions not taking full advantage of the opportunity to actively engage male Leopards, even when they are in the perfect position; we see them half-heartedly stalking these Leopards...almost seeming to want to alert the Leopard to there presence-scaring & chasing them off, as opposed to being 100% intent on making a kill from such an advantageous position... Its usually lionesses that kill male leopards. If you bother to read the whole thread you will see the evidence. Luipaard Jun 12 2018, 01:55 AM How about this? 1. the leopard flees becouse he's outsized and outnumbered (most of the times) 2. the leopard is cornered and will stand it's ground, fighting off the lion(s) 3. the lion(s) kill the leopard (usually cub, subadult or female) They flee from single lionesses. No matter how much you try to put a spin on it, and well done, you do seem to suck people in like 221extra and Fang Fatalis, however Leopards always seem to flee even from single lionesses. And I have posted several male Leopards being killed by lionesses. Edited by Taipan, Jun 12 2018, 09:04 AM.



Fang Fatalis	Jun 12 2018, 09:15 AM Post #221
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 138 Group: Members Member #4,875 Joined: Apr 20, 2018	My point was, I have never seen or heard of an instance of a single lion killing a healthy & mature tom.



Taipan	Jun 12 2018, 04:31 PM Post #222
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Fang Fatalis Jun 12 2018, 09:15 AM My point was, I have never seen or heard of an instance of a single lion killing a healthy & mature tom. Any more qualifications you want to add to the scenario?



221Extra	Jun 13 2018, 12:25 AM Post #223
Deny, deny, deny. Posts: 1,830 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: Jan 11, 2012	Taipan nobody thinks for me. I've held that opinion & respect for a leopards ability to give an impessive showing against lions on occasion long before Luipaard posted here. All I do here is appreciate the videos & pics. Shame you cant do the same.



Luipaard	Jun 13 2018, 12:41 AM Post #224
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #2,402 Joined: Apr 18, 2014	Taipan Jun 12 2018, 08:59 AM They flee from single lionesses. No matter how much you try to put a spin on it, and well done, you do seem to suck people in like 221extra and Fang Fatalis, however Leopards always seem to flee even from single lionesses. And I have posted several male Leopards being killed by lionesses. It's their instinct to flee whenever they see danger coming. Leopards don't need to prove themselves towards lions, why would they take the risk? What I find interesting, is that leopards (more than occasionally) fend off lions. I've posted lots of pictures and videos where leopards seem to do the impossible against their much bigger cousins. Yet, I've never claimed that lions cannot kill leopards. Am I biased? Well yeah, I love leopards. Doesn't mean I tell bullsh*t.



Black Ice	Jun 13 2018, 12:46 AM Post #225
Drom King Posts: 14,216 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	Pretty sure if you had to bet your life on a Lioness or a Male Leopard you'd pick the Lioness to win in a heartbeat. Enjoy the instances the Leopard survives rather than trying to use those cases as an argument Leopard can win any confrontation with a bigger cat.



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