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Lions vs Leopards; Compilation thread
Topic Started: Dec 8 2012, 04:26 AM (41,328 Views)
Shin
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Never seen a leopard kill cubs that large before!

Extremely BALLSY move for the leopard-as the pride
was more than likely in the immediate vicinity!

I was watching a doc a while back, with a tigress & her 2 year old
cubs having a leopard held up in a tree. The narrator stated
that even with the cubs large size that they were still vulnerable
to the leopards predation....

That leopard better tread softly....the Tellehanga[sp?] male
was eventually mortally injured by lioness after killing there
cubs once too often...


*Upon further meditation on these events-I once again have come to the
conclusion or at least raise the extreme possibility that leopards are shadowing
ranger vehicles and/or using them to ambush prey distracted by human presence.
The leopard is such an animal to use ANY situation to it's advantage, similar
to some falcons & accipiter hawks in there implementation of dynamic cunning.

This practice needs to be reconsidered-as these rangers & safari guides seem to
have forgotten how badly humans can upset delicate balances within an ecosystem.
These nature preserves are supposed to be or at least reflect wilderness areas-not an
interactive zoo, which it seems these safari tours have been treating them as...

they get too close to the wildlife is what I'm getting at, then they wonder why the 'happen'
to see leopards killing animals right in front of them... ^o)
Edited by Shin, Jun 7 2016, 02:36 PM.
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Taipan
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The death of a leopard in the Klaserie

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Survival of the fittest means only one thing; that those who are weaker will succumb, and those who succeed will prosper. When predators take down prey, we call it the circle of life, when predators take on predators, it is a vicious and brutal fight, often to the death. Competition in the wild is rife. It’s every man for himself, and each pride for their own.

This week the Greater Kruger Park lost a leopard; a young female we had seen with her kill just the night before. Her belly was still full as she lay motionless in the grass, her fur slightly dishevelled, and evidence of bite marks puncturing her neck.

The two Ross Pride lionesses dominate the area around Africa on Foot and nThambo Tree Camp, and currently they are hiding one small cub. The instinct to protect their young, and the determination to eliminate the enemy would give these lions enough reason to kill a leopard in their path.

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Perhaps she took a turn into lion territory that night and had no chance to escape the ruthless lionesses as they set out to hunt. The next morning the lions were found triumphantly feeding on their buffalo prey, while their faded tracks led back to the lifeless young leopard in the distant grass.

The recent rains have flushed the evidence from the ground, but it seems that the Klaserie Reserve saw a battle between cats in the early hours of the morning. One youthful leopard no match for a team of ferocious lionesses with a cub to protect.

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Enoch and Patrick from Africa on Foot discovered the upsetting sight on morning game drive. A golden pelt decorated with ebony rosettes – a vision so sought after on safari that even in death she was majestic. By nightfall last night, her scent had been detected, and she did not go to waste. A camera trap we set up captured hyenas in the darkness, dragging her body away.

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Sometimes jubilant, at times, devastating, the African bush is a combination of celebration and destruction. Standing next to the silent body of a leopard in all her glory was a reminder of the brutality of it all. Watch Kevin MacLaughlin’s video on this story, taking a look at the unforgiving nature of the wild, and the aftermath of this big cat battle.

http://www.sundestinations.co.za/blog/the-death-of-a-leopard-in-the-klaserie/
Leopard & Lion Standoff in the Mara

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Full Story (cant copy & paste) : http://www.loucoetzer.co.za/leopard-lion-stand-mara/
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charliegrin
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Ohhh... Lions also do kill leopards but they don't eat them right?

^ Poor leopard cub though :$
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1977marc
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lions kill female leopard
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1977marc
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:D Amazing encounter here..

2 huge male leopards fighting and a lioness with cubs protecting them.
Conclusion: Kenyan leopards can grow huge...See so much big males overthere, look overal bigger than in SA.
The female lioness chases them away but is hesistant to engage...
You can see by comparison that a lioness ( Kenyan lions to me look bigger also than in SA) will not easily kill a male leopard like this. She is bigger but not as much as expected.

http://www.wild-eye.co.za/catfight-two-leopards-lioness/
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1977marc
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Another great encounter male lion against a male leopard..ow not I mean not just a male leopard... B-)

The Bike......he is a legend.

look how quickly he responds, and a great tactic to strike first and then run.
Look how a big male leopard looks compared to a big male lion...

male lion against male leopard...the Bike
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Oct 12 2016, 03:58 PM
Another great encounter male lion against a male leopard..ow not I mean not just a male leopard... B-)

The Bike......he is a legend.

look how quickly he responds, and a great tactic to strike first and then run.
Look how a big male leopard looks compared to a big male lion...

male lion against male leopard...the Bike
Leopards are awesome... so are one of my fauvorite animals despite i prefer canidae.
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Sep 9 2016, 05:17 PM
:D Amazing encounter here..

2 huge male leopards fighting and a lioness with cubs protecting them.
Conclusion: Kenyan leopards can grow huge...See so much big males overthere, look overal bigger than in SA.
The female lioness chases them away but is hesistant to engage...
You can see by comparison that a lioness ( Kenyan lions to me look bigger also than in SA) will not easily kill a male leopard like this. She is bigger but not as much as expected.

http://www.wild-eye.co.za/catfight-two-leopards-lioness/
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That leopard look very big.I also wonder what would have had happened if that leopard and lioness got into fight.I love leopards :).
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1977marc
Sep 9 2016, 05:17 PM

You can see by comparison that a lioness ( Kenyan lions to me look bigger also than in SA) will not easily kill a male leopard like this. She is bigger but not as much as expected.


Also, that Lioness appears to have superior musculature to those "huge male Leopards".

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1977marc
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I think with a leopard you see less muscles because of the spots, remember seeing night vision shot of leopards in Yala, and you saw how actually a leopard looks like
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^Exactly, it is much easier to see muscle definition on a plain solid coat like that of a lioness or cougar than a densely spotted coat of a leopard which clearly has an obscuring effect. The big leopard in the pics above has particularly bold and densely packed markings.

That was a terrific find marc. An enormous male leopard, looks to be at least 2 thirds the size of the lioness. It is interesting to see that in all these encounters between male leopards and lionesses from Kenya, the difference between the two does not look as significant as those from Southern Africa. As we've all seen in photographed encounters from the Sabi Sands, even the big male leopards there look completely dwarfed by the lionesses. Perhaps the male leopards in the Mara are bigger than those in the Sabi Sands or the lionesses there are smaller, or a combination of the two. We do have pretty decent scientific data on the size of lionesses from both the Serengeti (of which the Mara is part) as well as from Kruger (of which the Sabi Sands is part). In both regions the average recorded weight and chest girth seems pretty much identical at around 124kg and 102cm, respectively.

Another encounter between a male leopard and lionesses in the Masai Mara. Though this lioness looks youngish to be fair.
http://www.imagesafaris.com/2014-01-13-masai-mara-kenya/

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animalkingdom
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Wow these encounters looks Common,i thought it was uncommon.
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1977marc
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chui, great pictures, did you see my video of the Bike and the male lion..he looks not that small compared to the lion
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same situation..but different camera angle

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1977marc
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I saw the new video Kuri. unbelievable how Quicky the bike responds
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