Leopard & African Wild Dog Interactions

Welcome to Carnivora. We hope you enjoy your visit.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.

Join our community!

If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Pages:
1
2
3
…
7

Leopard & African Wild Dog Interactions
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 31 2013, 10:21 PM (11,727 Views)
Koolyote	Nov 4 2013, 08:10 PM Post #16
Martes Posts: 1,792 Group: Members Member #1,693 Joined: Sep 21, 2013	Actually leopards have a pretty cool life compared to many other predators.



Canidae	Nov 7 2013, 12:21 AM Post #17
Omnivore Posts: 1,350 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 7, 2012	Interesting account. I must admit though, that I have skepticism a leopard killed 2 wild dogs in 'seconds'. Leopards seemingly kill canids - jackals, dogs and A.W.Ds via suffocation and this isn't a kill method that can be accomplished in 'seconds' on a single animal. The dog in the picture also looks as if it had been partially fed on in the hind region. I personally would suggest the partially eaten dog was killed and being eaten by the leopard when the second dog found the leopard, attacked and was fatally wounded in 'seconds'. (One dog was still alive when found and from the description it doesn't seem the witnessed all of it.) There is seperate account in scientific lit of a leopard killing 2 Wild Dog albeit in East Africa and I certainly back a leopard unless a small one over a pair, but I highly doubt a cat would kill a pair in seconds, even a big male. Edited by Canidae, Nov 7 2013, 12:21 AM.



ManEater	Nov 7 2013, 01:30 AM Post #18
Omnivore Posts: 1,112 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	AWD are gracile, a male leopard could kill one in seconds with a skull or neck bite, but yes i agree, it is not the way leopard usually kill.



k9boy	Nov 12 2013, 08:53 AM Post #19
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Canidae Nov 7 2013, 12:21 AM Interesting account. I must admit though, that I have skepticism a leopard killed 2 wild dogs in 'seconds'. Leopards seemingly kill canids - jackals, dogs and A.W.Ds via suffocation and this isn't a kill method that can be accomplished in 'seconds' on a single animal. The dog in the picture also looks as if it had been partially fed on in the hind region. I personally would suggest the partially eaten dog was killed and being eaten by the leopard when the second dog found the leopard, attacked and was fatally wounded in 'seconds'. (One dog was still alive when found and from the description it doesn't seem the witnessed all of it.) There is seperate account in scientific lit of a leopard killing 2 Wild Dog albeit in East Africa and I certainly back a leopard unless a small one over a pair, but I highly doubt a cat would kill a pair in seconds, even a big male. Nice to see you still post here mate. Got that other account of the leopard killing the 2 wild dogs? And I agree with your view as to what happened, that dog in the picture looks like its been eaten.



Ferae	Nov 12 2013, 09:14 AM Post #20
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #1,560 Joined: Aug 20, 2013	ManEater Nov 7 2013, 01:30 AM AWD are gracile, a male leopard could kill one in seconds with a skull or neck bite, but yes i agree, it is not the way leopard usually kill. I disagree. Even though I'm a cat fan, and believe that a leopard (excluding the smaller individuals of the smaller subspecies) is much more powerful than a single wild african dog, the canid is still large and impressive. Maybe because we usually see them in documentaries staring hyenas and lions, they look much smaller than really are. And have a powerful bite, too. So, a leopard can kill a WAD, but the dog could injury the cat in the fight, and would not be an "instant kill".



Canidae	Dec 15 2013, 12:00 AM Post #21
Omnivore Posts: 1,350 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 7, 2012	k9boy Nov 12 2013, 08:53 AM Canidae Nov 7 2013, 12:21 AM Interesting account. I must admit though, that I have skepticism a leopard killed 2 wild dogs in 'seconds'. Leopards seemingly kill canids - jackals, dogs and A.W.Ds via suffocation and this isn't a kill method that can be accomplished in 'seconds' on a single animal. The dog in the picture also looks as if it had been partially fed on in the hind region. I personally would suggest the partially eaten dog was killed and being eaten by the leopard when the second dog found the leopard, attacked and was fatally wounded in 'seconds'. (One dog was still alive when found and from the description it doesn't seem the witnessed all of it.) There is seperate account in scientific lit of a leopard killing 2 Wild Dog albeit in East Africa and I certainly back a leopard unless a small one over a pair, but I highly doubt a cat would kill a pair in seconds, even a big male. Nice to see you still post here mate. Got that other account of the leopard killing the 2 wild dogs? And I agree with your view as to what happened, that dog in the picture looks like its been eaten. Hey k9boy. Thanks, and sorry for the late reply, been busy. Here is the account from Jonathon Kingdon's 'East African Mammals Volume 3A : Carnivores' : "Leopards have been treed by aggressive dogs and a Leopard near our farm in south west Tanzania was seen to jump down long enough to kill 2 dogs before taking refuge up the tree again." However, some there are some things to consider. One, is that East African dogs are considerably smaller than southern African dogs, weighing only around 40 - 45 lbs. (R. Woodroffe unpublished data in Sillero-Zubiri, MacDonald and Hoffman, and data from Reddhole in the A.W.D profile) Secondly that A.W.Ds are surprisingly nonchalant around treed leopards, safari guides and reports sometimes report them sleeping under trees they just chased a leopard up into. This presents a good opportunity for an attack on careless dogs. Young dogs travelling with adults may also be more vulnerable to attack. Whilst the account is still a good account of Leopard lethality it is absolutely the exception and not the norm. In accounts where dogs - either Dhole or A.W.D - attack, tree or kill leopards dogs are rarely even hit or injured let alone killed.



RojJones	May 16 2014, 01:23 AM Post #22
Omnivore Posts: 1,101 Group: Members Member #1,715 Joined: Sep 26, 2013	After reading Africa Geographic’s article about the wild dogs and a leopard at Limpopo-Lipadi I was reminded of the leopard that guests at Kwando Safaris’ Lagoon Camp saw killed by a pack of dogs when he ventured too near their den in the heat of the day. The guests were on their way to the airstrip and the wild dog den was en-route so the guide, Steve Kgwatalala, made a turn near the den. Occasionally some of the dogs would get up and glare into a bush nearby and growl before laying down again. Steve thought that their must be something in the bush, so they decided to wait a while to see if anything happened. Shortly thereafter a male dog leapt up, growling, and ran into the grass followed by several other dogs. A leopard had jumped out of the bush and they grabbed the fleeing leopard by the tail, slowing him enough for the other dogs to launch an attack. It did not take long before they managed to pin him down. All the adult dogs piled in, killing him within a few minutes and despite the leopard’s energetic defense it did not manage to injure any of the dogs too badly. The plane was late so the guests waited nearby as they watched the suspicious dogs rushed up to the dead leopard periodically, growling at it and taking bites just to be sure it was dead. http://africageographic.com/blog/wild-dogs-kill-leopard/



Black Ice	May 16 2014, 01:30 AM Post #23
Drom King Posts: 14,216 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	WOW!!!!!! This is shocking, such bold moves! Makes me wonder if coyote have killed cougar in packs now.



RojJones	May 16 2014, 01:48 AM Post #24
Omnivore Posts: 1,101 Group: Members Member #1,715 Joined: Sep 26, 2013	5 Coyotes in pack. Coyote weight 6.8–20.9 kg. 10-20 Wild dogs in pack. Wild dog weight 18–36 kg. Female leopard 23-60 kg. In pictures female leopard about 25-30 kg. =(



Full Throttle	May 16 2014, 01:52 AM Post #25
Apex Predator Posts: 3,592 Group: Members Member #199 Joined: Feb 19, 2012	This is a rare find.



Cape Leopard	May 16 2014, 01:55 AM Post #26
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 427 Group: Members Member #1,990 Joined: Dec 18, 2013	Awesome pictures!



Vivyx	May 16 2014, 01:56 AM Post #27
Felines, sharks, birds, arthropods Posts: 12,563 Group: Members Member #877 Joined: Dec 2, 2012	Interesting find



k9boy	May 16 2014, 01:57 AM Post #28
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Black Ice May 16 2014, 01:30 AM WOW!!!!!! This is shocking, such bold moves! Makes me wonder if coyote have killed cougar in packs now. I very much doubt it. You would need a shit load of coyotes to kill a cougar, and they don't travel in very big packs. Nice find btw !



221Extra	May 16 2014, 02:37 AM Post #29
Deny, deny, deny. Posts: 1,830 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: Jan 11, 2012	Tiny leopardess, looks smaller than many of the wild dogs invovled. Tho, wild dogs are defiantly bold & more aggressive than most, fearing (in packs) nothing but lions.



Vita	May 16 2014, 03:13 AM Post #30
Cave Canem Posts: 3,563 Group: Members Member #32 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	I thought the account said the leopard was a male? They did refer to it as "him." Anyway, interesting account. There's hardly any defense to a mob attack.



1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)


Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Video & Image Gallery · Next Topic »

Pages:
1
2
3
…
7