| Welcome to Carnivora. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| maneater pictorial | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 25 2014, 07:17 AM (6,011 Views) | |
| Molosser | Sep 26 2014, 04:59 AM Post #16 |
Ursids, Canids, and amphycionids
  ![]](http://b2.ifrm.com/28122/87/0/p701956/pipright.png)
|
Man eater bears: " At least 30 hungry bears have trapped a group of geologists at their remote survey site in the far east of Russian after killing two of their colleagues last week, emergency officials said. The team of geologists on the Kamchatka Peninsula were forced to remain in camp with weapons ready as the ravenous bears - some ten feet tall - roamed around outside. The bears are thought to have run out of their normal diet of fish and smaller animals - and to have turned instead to hunting humans." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1038259/Man-eating-bears-kill-scientists-lay-siege-survivors-trapped-remote-forest-base.html " A 12’6″ and 1600lb Man Eating Grizzly Killed in Alaska"  http://www.montanahunting.org/1600lb-man-eating-grizzly-killed-in-alaska/ " The Sankebetsu brown bear incident (三毛別羆事件 Sankebetsu Higuma jiken?), also referred to as the Rokusensawa bear attack (六線沢熊害事件 Rokusensawa yūgai jiken?) or the Tomamae brown bear incident (苫前羆事件 Tomamae Higuma jiken?) was the worst bear attack in Japanese history,[1] killing seven settlers[2] in Rokusensawa, Sankebetsu, Tomamae, Rumoi, Hokkaidō, Japan. The incident took place between December 9 and 14, 1915 after a large brown bear woke up from hibernation and repeatedly attacked several houses in the area." " When measured, the bear was 340 kg (749 lbs) and 2.7 m (8.85 ft) tall. A necropsy was carried out on the bear during which parts of his victims were found in his stomach. While at the time the skull and some of the fur of the bear were kept, they later were lost and no traces of Kesagake are left." http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankebetsu_brown_bear_incident " The Sloth bear of Mysore was an unusually aggressive Indian sloth bear responsible for the deaths of at least 12 people and the mauling of two dozen others in 1957. It was killed by Kenneth Anderson, who described it in his memoirs Man-Eaters and Jungle Killers: “[Sloth] Bears, as a rule, are excitable but generally harmless creatures. This particular bear carried the mark of Cain, in that he had become the wanton and deliberate murderer of several men, whom he had done death in most terrible fashion, without provocation” —“The Black Bear of Mysore”, from Man-Eaters and Jungle Killers, Kenneth Anderson, Allen & Unwin, 1957" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloth_bear_of_Mysore |
 |
 
|
| kingkazma | Sep 26 2014, 05:01 AM Post #17 |
Apex Predator
|
Well I don't see anybody laughing. Except for you and those who dislike me, it's not that funny. I honestly don't care. |
|
|
|
| Molosser | Sep 26 2014, 12:51 PM Post #18 |
|
Ursids, Canids, and amphycionids
|
What! Common dude! They weren't impressive?! these dogs have been wrestling for almost 30 mnts before the photos were taken! they're much more agile and long lasting than any similar sized dog you can see here in the west, they're much more robust than even a wolf, and their dentistry is superior to that of any western dog. Saying that wasn't smart bud, you sounded like you know nothing about canids. Especially given the fact I've posted dozens of vids and photos proving how agile and nimble these dogs are for their size. How on earth did you conclude that they're not agile from 3 photos? If anything these photos show how functional and agile they are for their massive size! I fail to see anything unimpressive about them. Remember they were barely 14 mnth at the time of the photos, can you imagine what they'll grow up to be? And for the last time, the incident of a rottweiler fighting and surviving two wolves is an authenticated account documented by canadian press. Stop trying to ignore it just because you don't like the result. Frankly kk, I'm starting to feel like you're ignoring most of the points and evidence posted by other members when it counters your opinion which isn't debating man. |
|
|
|
| VenomousDragon | Sep 26 2014, 03:00 PM Post #19 |
|
Omnivore
|
I had a snicker at it. |
|
|
|
| Vodmeister | Sep 26 2014, 03:14 PM Post #20 |
Ultimate Predator
|
How can this thread be named a "maneater" thread without the LEGEND himself?
|
|
|
|
| kingkazma | Sep 26 2014, 08:08 PM Post #21 |
|
Apex Predator
|
Well like I said I don't care. And frankly I have no idea whether you hate me or not. Wait a second I've got to go to school. I'll say something when I get back 
Edited by kingkazma, Sep 26 2014, 08:23 PM.
|
|
|
|
| VenomousDragon | Sep 26 2014, 08:27 PM Post #22 |
|
Omnivore
|
I dont |
|
|
|
| kingkazma | Sep 26 2014, 08:51 PM Post #23 |
|
Apex Predator
|
Cool. |
|
|
|
| Molosser | Sep 26 2014, 09:12 PM Post #24 |
|
Ursids, Canids, and amphycionids
|
damn!! you're absolutely right, the giant croc of burundi is probably the most notorious man eater of all time with over 300 human victims. I read many reports about his size, strength, and ferocity but some of them sounded a bit far fetched; in one account gustave allegedly killed a bull hippo! i don't think any extant croc is capable of such a feat due to the huge size disadvantage.. gustave reportedly weighs a ton (which is massive for a croc) but that's still 3 times lighter than bull hippo and let's not forget about those 1 ft long canines.  interestingly though, and unlike any other man eater, gustave may still be alive to this day.. The last reported sighting of Gustave was in February 2008 by National Geographic sources. A lack of subsequent reports makes Gustave's current status unknown. |
|
|
|
| kingkazma | Sep 27 2014, 03:43 AM Post #25 |
|
Apex Predator
|
@crxgalaxy "What! Common dude! They weren't impressive?! these dogs have been wrestling for almost 30 mnts before the photos were taken after they were fighting for 30mns! I never said they weren't impressive, just that the cross wasn't all that successful imo. And you never said anything about 30 minutes! Or maybe I just didn't see. Either way you've got no way to prove it. "they're much more agile and long lasting than any similar sized dog you can see here in the west, they're much more robust than even a wolf, and their dentistry is superior to that of any western dog. " Wolves don't need to be that robust anyway, their not meant to intimidate or attack people. In fact the fur adds a lot, and I've yet to see a shaved co. Any western breed? High content wolf hybrids too? No. Not to mention that you have no proof. Oh really now? I'll make a list of better dogs here in the west. Agile Working Danes Borzoi Large mix breeds Many outcrosses Shepherds and their mixes Hounds Curs Etc. Longer lasting? Dogo Pit bull mixes American bulldog Akita(about the same really) Bully breeds Bully greys Many spitz breeds. Filas Etc. Dogs that are better at both? Any high content wolf hybrid. They don't get fat if treated right. Tosa Pit crosses Bandogs In general wolf hybrids that are actually correctly bred. Mixed breeds. And just for extra SCIENTIFIC measures  A dog with no wolf blood will ever have dentiton anywhere close at parity. "Saying that wasn't smart bud, you sounded like you know nothing about canids." Yet you haven't shown any real evidence. Right..... " Especially given the fact I've posted dozens of vids and photos proving how agile and nimble these dogs are for their size. How on earth did you conclude that they're not agile from 3 pictures?" I never said that they weren't agile. And pictures don't show much. These dogs are fast, but they aren't the best. Not even in their size range. "If anything these photos show how functional and agile they are for their massive size!" I never said that they weren't. Jeez. Not to mention that a fight in a closed ring doesn't require much agility. The other photos you posted prove more. "I fail to see anything unimpressive about them. " Their jaws for one. They can fight for "30" minutes, and all out wolf fight last about 5, resulting in death. And I never said that I think they weren't impressive. I think they're very impressive. "Remember they were barely 14 mnth at the time of the photos, can you imagine what they'll grow up to be?" Larger dogs?  "And for the last time, the incident of a rottweiler fighting and surviving two wolves is an authenticated account documented by canadian press. Stop trying to ignore it just because you don't like the result." THE CANADIAN PRESS IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC SITE. Nor is it good evidence for anything. There's no video, there's no real proof it happened, there's not even a picture of the dog! "Frankly kk, I'm starting to feel like you're ignoring most of the points and evidence posted by other members when it counters your opinion which isn't debating man." By other members you mean you. Not to mention that you've shown no good scientific evidence to back up your claims. Now, I made this pictorial for a reason so let's focus on that. Edited by kingkazma, Sep 27 2014, 03:46 AM.
|
|
|
|
| Spartan | Sep 27 2014, 04:21 AM Post #26 |
|
Kleptoparasite
|
Why do you people always sound like angry 15 years old whose favorite pokemon just got insulted? Is it that hard do keep the childish animosities out of this thread? |
|
|
|
| kingkazma | Sep 27 2014, 05:04 AM Post #27 |
|
Apex Predator
|
I don't, for one, if you don't read the topic, don't comment. For two, this is a debate forum, if you can't handle it leave. For three I made this thread and was trying to end that discussion. If anyone is childish it's you, now do me a favor, don't revive finished arguments, and learn to read
|
|
|
|
| Molosser | Sep 27 2014, 06:20 AM Post #28 |
|
Ursids, Canids, and amphycionids
|
Their jaws for one.. Hmmm, that was a wild guess rather than a calculated statement, here's why: Like I said it wasn't a fight, the dogs were wrestling and because they're not allowed nor meant to kill each other they keep going for too long. The teeth of a working ovcharka: http://s25.postimg.org/q9etxsxz3/1900145_652077071555329_4841026542249043387_n.jpg And I've posted another dog with even bigger teeth, a wolf can't have bigger teeth unless if out was bred with a smilodon or a nimravid.. Even black ice admitted that. Now for the skull, bandog posted a photo of a german shepherd skull comparable to that of a large wolf and dinocrocuta proved that a bernese mountain dog has a skull comparable to that of a male spotted hyena, ovcharkas are larger than both of the above dogs. Bite: I posted a study that tested 101 wolves and none of them produced more than 500 lbs, ovcharkas can do 600-650.. and again bite only matters when your opponent can't produce enough force to kill you which isn't true here. Thing is, large molossoids have broader, shorter jaws compared to most wolves thus their bite isn't any less impressive. " THE CANADIAN PRESS IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC SITE." Dude, stop being emotional. The canadian press is known for its authenticity covering global events, do you really think you can question their authenticity concerning a wolf vs dog situation? That's incredibly ridiculous.. Would you question their account if they said the wolves won? No! Because that's what you want to read. starting to get the whole picture? " Not even in their size range. " Non of the breeds you mentioned can get over 130 lbs without becoming a fat useless mutt. The fact that these dogs can get over 150 lbs without losing functionality is what makes them great, the fact they combined strength, size, agility, tenacity, and impressive dentistry. I've posted dozens of photos and vids proving it, don't make me post them again. There are faster dogs (though these did aren't meant to be fast, there are dogs that have more stamina (though definitely not much more) but no not in their size range. |
|
|
|
| kingkazma | Sep 27 2014, 07:51 AM Post #29 |
|
Apex Predator
|
Their jaws for one.. Hmmm, that was a wild guess rather than a calculated statement, here's why: Like I said it wasn't a fight, the dogs were wrestling and because they're not allowed nor meant to kill each other they keep going for too long. "The teeth of a working ovcharka: http://s25.postimg.org/q9etxsxz3/1900145_652077071555329_4841026542249043387_n.jpg" Here's the teeth of a smaller kangal.  Your point? "And I've posted another dog with even bigger teeth, a wolf can't have bigger teeth unless if out was bred with a smilodon or a nimravid.." Or if it was the same size. And I'd like to see this dog with bigger teeth please. "Even black ice admitted that." Any scientific evidence? No? Ok. "Now for the skull, bandog posted a photo of a german shepherd skull comparable to that of a large wolf and dinocrocuta proved that a bernese mountain dog has a skull comparable to that of a male spotted hyena, ovcharkas are larger than both of the above dogs." Just because two skulls are the same shape doesn't mean that they are comparable. We have no way of knowing the weights, ages, conditions, health, of the animals involved. "Bite: I posted a study that tested 101 wolves and none of them produced more than 500 lbs, ovcharkas can do 600-650.. and again bite only matters when your opponent can't produce enough force to kill you which isn't true here. Thing is, large molossoids have broader, shorter jaws compared to most wolves thus their bite isn't any less impressive. " Proof that ovarckas can produce such a large bite force? Not to mention that many other things factor into bite force besides head size and shape. Sure a broader snout helps, but what about dentition? Sagittal crest? I've already posted SCIENTIFIC evidence of a wolf having deadlier teeth than a dog, especially at parity. 101 wolves do not determine the bite force of wild individuals who constantly hunt down prey. "Dude, stop being emotional. The canadian press is known for its authenticity covering global events, do you really think you can question their authenticity concerning a wolf vs dog situation? That's incredibly ridiculous.. Would you question their account if they said the wolves won? No! Because that's what you want to read. starting to get the whole picture?" Yes! Because wolves hardly ever go after people. Not to mention that wolves aren't my favorite animals. That belongs to domestic dogs and hamsters. I can question whatever I like, because frankly it's not a scientific site. Also may I have a link to this article? We don't know anything about the wolves involved, so it doesn't prove much. Are you starting to get the picture? Not to mention that I'm not being emotional, unlike you, living through a dog. "Non of the breeds you mentioned can get over 130 lbs without becoming a fat useless mutt. The fact that these dogs can get over 150 lbs without losing functionality is what makes them great, the fact they combined strength, size, agility, tenacity, and impressive dentistry. I've posted dozens of photos and vids proving it, don't make me post them again. There are faster dogs (though these did aren't meant to be fast, there are dogs that have more stamina (though definitely not much more) but no not in their size range." |
|
|
|
| Molosser | Sep 27 2014, 01:41 PM Post #30 |
|
Ursids, Canids, and amphycionids
|
We've debated this more than we should, and I've proved my points more than once I post photos and you request scientific evidence, can't you see the teeth from the photos? And german shepherds don't get bigger than northern wolves! Because I'm not "emotional"I'll stop debating this. We agree to disagree |
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Video & Image Gallery · Next Topic » |
6:34 PM Jul 13
