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Barbary Lion v Siberian Tiger
Topic Started: Oct 20 2014, 08:25 PM (31,711 Views)
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Barbary Lion - Panthera leo leo
The Barbary lion, sometimes referred to as the Atlas lion, is an African lion population that is considered extinct in the wild and is among the biggest lion subspecies. It is believed that the last Barbary lion was shot in the western Maghreb during the year 1942 near Tizi n'Tichka. The Barbary lion was first described by the Austrian zoologist Johann Nepomuk Meyer under the trinomen Felis leo barbaricus on the basis of a type specimen from Barbary. The Barbary lion was long considered one of the biggest lion subspecies. Museum specimens of male Barbary lion were described as having very dark and long-haired manes that extended over the shoulder and to the belly. Head-to-tail length of stuffed males varies from 2.35 to 2.8 m (7 ft 9 in to 9 ft 2 in), and females measure around 2.5 m (8 ft 2 in). A 19th century hunter described a large male allegedly measuring 3.25 m (10.7 ft) including a 75 cm (30 in) long tail. In some historic accounts the weight of wild males was indicated as very heavy and reaching 270 to 300 kilograms (600 to 660 lb). But the accuracy of the measurements may be questionable, and the sample size of captive Barbary lions were too small to conclude they were the biggest lion subspecies.

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Siberian Tiger - Panthera tigris altaica
The Siberian tiger (Panthera tigris altaica), also known as the Amur tiger, is a tiger subspecies inhabiting mainly the Sikhote Alin mountain region with a small subpopulation in southwest Primorye province in the Russian Far East. In 2005, there were 331–393 adult-subadult Amur tigers in this region, with a breeding adult population of about 250 individuals. The Siberian tiger is reddish-rusty or rusty-yellow in colour, with narrow black transverse stripes. Measurements taken by scientists of the Siberian Tiger Project in Sikhote-Alin range from 178 to 208 cm (70 to 82 in) in head and body length measured in straight line, with an average of 195 cm (77 in) for males; and for females ranging from 167 to 182 cm (66 to 72 in) with an average of 174 cm (69 in). The average tail measures 99 cm (39 in) in males and 91 cm (36 in) in females. The longest male “Maurice” measured 309 cm (122 in) in total length (tail of 101 cm (40 in)) and had a chest girth of 127 cm (50 in). The longest female “Maria Ivanna” measured 270 cm (110 in) in total length (tail of 88 cm (35 in)) and had a chest girth of 108 cm (43 in). These measurements show that the present Amur tiger is longer than the Bengal tiger and the African lion. According to modern research of wild Siberian tigers in Sikhote-Alin, an average adult male of more than 35 months of age weighs 176.4 kg (389 lb), the average asymptotic limit being 222.3 kg (490 lb); an adult tigress weighs 117.9 kg (260 lb). The mean weight of historical Siberian tigers is supposed to be higher: 215.3 kg (475 lb) for male tigers and 137.5 kg (303 lb) for females. In May 2011, a male called “Banzai” weighing 207 kg (460 lb) was radio-collared. This individual is heavier but smaller in size than a previously radio-collared male. The largest male, with largely assured references, measured 350 cm (140 in) "over curves", equivalent to 330 cm (130 in) between pegs. The tail length in fully grown males is about 1 m (39 in). Weights of up to 318 kg (700 lb) have been recorded and exceptionally large males weighing up to 384 kg (850 lb) are mentioned in the literature but, according to Mazák, none of these cases can be confirmed via reliable sources.

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Batman
Oct 20 2014, 04:52 AM
Barbary Lion vs Siberian Tiger.
Edited by Taipan, Dec 23 2016, 11:03 PM.
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Sparx
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Taipan, is Margay vs Bornean Bay Cat a possible matchup.
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ImperialDino
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Barbary Lions were regular African lions, with more mane hair to block the sand from going in its eyes. Kinda like Lynx have big paws for the snow.

Siberian Tiger mauls the Barbary Lion
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GgJ
Mar 3 2018, 08:17 AM
Taipan, is Margay vs Bornean Bay Cat a possible matchup.


1. Bornean Bay Cat v Margay

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ImperialDino
Mar 3 2018, 09:16 PM
Barbary Lions were regular African lions, with more mane hair to block the sand from going in its eyes. Kinda like Lynx have big paws for the snow.

Siberian Tiger mauls the Barbary Lion
Mauls the lion ... and?
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WaffleKing
Mar 4 2018, 05:35 AM
ImperialDino
Mar 3 2018, 09:16 PM
Barbary Lions were regular African lions, with more mane hair to block the sand from going in its eyes. Kinda like Lynx have big paws for the snow.

Siberian Tiger mauls the Barbary Lion
Mauls the lion ... and?
What do you mean and? Siberian Tiger mauls the thicker maned African Lion
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Taipan
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ImperialDino
Mar 5 2018, 07:23 PM
WaffleKing
Mar 4 2018, 05:35 AM
ImperialDino
Mar 3 2018, 09:16 PM
Barbary Lions were regular African lions, with more mane hair to block the sand from going in its eyes. Kinda like Lynx have big paws for the snow.

Siberian Tiger mauls the Barbary Lion
Mauls the lion ... and?
What do you mean and? Siberian Tiger mauls the thicker maned African Lion


and the Barbary Tiger mauls the Siberian Tiger too. The result?

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Nesout
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As we saw in the tiger vs female sloth bear video, the tiger can't kill the much smaller bear, so he doesn't have much of a chance here against a lion.

Tigers aren't fighters, they're hunters, they can't beat the lion who is a warrior.

A lion would stomp that poor bear worse than if the bear was a hyena.
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Nesout
Mar 6 2018, 07:20 AM
As we saw in the tiger vs female sloth bear video, the tiger can't kill the much smaller bear, so he doesn't have much of a chance here against a lion.

Tigers aren't fighters, they're hunters, they can't beat the lion who is a warrior.

A lion would stomp that poor bear worse than if the bear was a hyena.
You cannot draw such generalized conclusions from a single interaction. It's not so infrequent for an animal to repel a bigger, stronger predator. And the bear wasn't that much smaller. Sloth bears have also very thick coarse fur that probably give them a significant protection.
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Taipan
Mar 5 2018, 08:26 PM
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Mar 5 2018, 07:23 PM
WaffleKing
Mar 4 2018, 05:35 AM

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What do you mean and? Siberian Tiger mauls the thicker maned African Lion


and the Barbary Tiger mauls the Siberian Tiger too. The result?

It's like saying
"Tiger bites lion"
....and?
ImperialDino
Mar 3 2018, 09:16 PM
Barbary Lions were regular African lions, with more mane hair to block the sand from going in its eyes. Kinda like Lynx have big paws for the snow.

Siberian Tiger mauls the Barbary Lion
And no, barbary lions didn't just have "more mane"

According to weight measurements given, male African Lions weigh between 330 to 550 whereas Barbary lions were estimated to have weighed from 600 to 660 lbs. That's atleast a 100lb. Weight difference.

So yeah, it must just be their hair
Edited by WaffleKing, Mar 6 2018, 09:23 AM.
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The lion should win this.
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