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| Red Wolf Recovery Under Assault in North Carolina; Proposal of Ending the Red Wolf Recovery Program | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 5 2015, 03:54 AM (3,018 Views) | |
| Mauro20 | Feb 8 2015, 12:08 AM Post #16 |
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Coyote x Wolf hybridization is not common in healthy populations. About the red wolf, it probably used to be an independent species, but hybridized with coyotes because humans hunted them so much there were few available mates, making this an "unnatural" phenomenon, unlike hooded crow x carrion crow hybrids. In addition, interbreeding between different subspecies isn't the same as interbreeding between different species. Hybrids aren't always more fit than "pure" animals. Often, they are even worse - haven't you heard of outbreeding depression? Edited by Mauro20, Feb 8 2015, 12:21 AM.
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| Mesopredator | Feb 8 2015, 01:15 AM Post #17 |
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Disaster taxa
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While I agree that between subspecies it is different. You do make some fair points. But what is your evidence that coyote x wolf hybridization is not common in healthy populations? And what is a healthy population? Are you saying wolves were desperate? |
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| Mauro20 | Feb 8 2015, 02:26 AM Post #18 |
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Just look at what kingkazma posted in this thread - wolves usually harass and/or kill coyotes whenever they can. Animals usually avoid interbreeding with other species. For example, you can breed guppies and mollies in the same aquarium for generations and they probably won't hybridize, but if you keep male guppies and female mollies (or vice versa) you could get hybrids. You can keep Muscovy ducks and Pekin ducks in the same yard for years, and they won't interbreed, but if you keep male muscovies and female pekins, you could obtain mulards. I can easily see a population under pressure, like the red wolf, being more likely to hybridize to avoid mating with close relatives. |
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| MightyKharza | Feb 8 2015, 07:22 AM Post #19 |
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Omnivore
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Tranquillo, capisco benissimo. (for the non-Italian speakers, "Don't worry, I understand fully") |
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| maker | Feb 8 2015, 09:04 AM Post #20 |
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Apex Predator
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Eastern coyotes are definitely more fit than red wolves. |
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| Sicilianu | Feb 9 2015, 11:02 AM Post #21 |
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I am hoping that the Canid Species Specialist group comes out strong against this proposal. At a minimum, we need to do more research on this animal before any drastic decisions are made. |
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| kingkazma | Feb 28 2015, 12:57 PM Post #22 |
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Apex Predator
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whats the situation |
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| maker | Feb 28 2015, 01:05 PM Post #23 |
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Apex Predator
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http://www.citizen-times.com/story/girls-gone-outdoors/2015/02/24/groups-oppose-nc-conditional-coyote-hunting/23947903/ |
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| Mesopredator | Feb 28 2015, 09:58 PM Post #24 |
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Hybridization can still occur naturally without pressure between species. It is rare, yes. |
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| Sicilianu | Mar 1 2015, 05:20 AM Post #25 |
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I haven't seen an update or a response from the U.S. government. I'll post when I do. |
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| Hybrid | Mar 14 2015, 01:52 AM Post #26 |
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Autotrophic Organism
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This is terrible news hopefully the petition can reach its goal but it looks like we would need another week or so to get to 9,000 |
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