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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 25 2015, 03:34 AM (743 Views) | |
| Jiggly Mimus | Mar 25 2015, 03:34 AM Post #1 |
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Heterotrophic Organism
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Do you still believe in God although you believe in evolution. Say how you feel. You won't be judged. |
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| maker | Mar 25 2015, 06:51 AM Post #2 |
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This thread is pointless, there already is 1: http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9616383/1/ |
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| Drift | Mar 25 2015, 08:15 AM Post #3 |
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High Spined Lizard
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Of course this thread is pointless, religion has no place among paleontology but everyone seems to be addicted to adding their 2 cents and not letting this thread die. |
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| Mesopredator | Mar 25 2015, 10:04 PM Post #4 |
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I agree with the explanations of science about how the universe started and how life on earth started, and how we got from the first organisms to dinosaurs to modern mammals; evolution. That makes a belief in a religion problematic, because: 1. The creation of the universe and life told by science and told by religion contradict 2. In most religions, gods are humanlike It seems possible that evolution can co-exist with religion, but not the creation of life or the universe. At least not how it was explained. And in most religions the gods are humanlike, which to me indicates that we humans are not created by god(s), but that we created the god(s). Besides that, we see that religions evolve to suit human activity, from animism and shamanism, to earth goddess, to polytheism, to monotheism. Not that it follows this path always, but this is another indication that the religions are created by us humans. There's even a tribe in Africa that is originally atheist - they do not worship anything. At best there would be a force that creates everything from the universe to life, but I don't see how this has to be supernatural. The way I see it, everything can be explained to be something natural. This force doesn't create anything by intention, it is spontanous and random; what I call nature. The only thing I have hard time with to understand is what there was before the big bang or big crunch. I would think there is something before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that, before that or in other words: infinite. Or maybe as a loop. But I don't understand how there can be something from nothing, which is also the issue with the Abrahamic god as there's no story how he was created. |
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| Cape Leopard | Mar 26 2015, 02:41 AM Post #5 |
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I think "belief" is the wrong choice of word when it comes to science, such as evolution. I do not say I believe in gravity, or I believe in the atomic theory, etc. I ACCEPT scientific theories. So really, it's not an issue at all to say that I believe in God and accept evolution as the mechanism that explains the diversity of species. Furthermore, the idea that religion and science are in conflict only applies when their doctrines assert that things are a certain way and that this is factual, meaning everything else is wrong. For the Judeo-Christian tradition, Genesis traditionally has not been interpreted as literal (there were a plethora of interpretations of it being allegory, such as with Augustine and Origen). Personally, I am not sure I would classify myself as "Christian" in the sense that I have issues with other doctrines such as the trinity, but I was raised as a Christian and certainly remain a theist. Just putting out my two cents on this topic. |
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| Drift | Mar 26 2015, 02:28 PM Post #6 |
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High Spined Lizard
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So we have an established topic about the exact same thing but apparently it makes sense to restart the same exact discussion? What's the point of that imo? |
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