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Wolf killer
Topic Started: Mar 28 2015, 04:51 PM (5,395 Views)
ChazoG
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Mar 30 2015, 06:32 AM
How is possible a tiger can hunt a brown bear bigger than him?

If a battle must dure more than 1 hour... i dont think that tiger will risk to be injured in a battle agaisnt a bear.
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Uhh maybe like this? A tiger would need a lot of skill and power to kill a bigger bear than themselves. and since a bear is very durable , a quick neck break is obviously the prime option if they can obtain it. In cases where it was a long drawn out and dangerous battle against a bigger bear, I can think of 4 instances,with 2 in the tigers victor, one for the bear and the other was a draw. All were close and last around 20 minutes
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Then... why tigers risks their lifes against a so powerfull adversary?...


And ussuri male brown bears usually follow male/female tigers to steal their preys...
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to get rid of competition and cub killers. look at dholes, how stupid do you think they are.
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Mar 30 2015, 03:28 AM
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Mar 30 2015, 03:24 AM
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Mar 30 2015, 03:17 AM
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Tiger predation on wolves is not uncommon, as Tigers would eat anything including leopards, lynx and other predators, but I've read that Tigers hunt wolves to the point result in few wolves in south eastern russia. during the winter wolves hunt in packs, but that doesn't mean much to a tiger


But is that picture you posted an actual wolf that has been killed by a tiger?

Because it would be a first to have this event recorded on a video or photographic format.
This is what I found


Scientists are watching carefully the nature reserve Hinganskogo and tigress Ilona, striped cat recently released from the rehabilitation center. To learn how to live in the taiga, Ilona specialists observe it by using cameratrap.

The Tigers often posing before cameras, this time something went wrong. After a hearty dinner, cat blew off from the tree one of the cameras. Ilona threw the remains of camera on snowmobile trail next to the academic hospital. A memory card with photos of Tigress scientists haven't been found.

For the past three weeks, she ate 5 boars and 1 wolf. Completely eaten was only one pig and a wolf. Ilona eat up no more than one third. Oddly, adult wild boars, are not afraid of "Queen of the forest". None of the herd after the attacks the Tigresses has resigned from his plot, told in the reserve.

The source : http://www.dv.kp.ru/online/news/1951313/

Not sure if its 100% translated well though
"she ate 5 boars and 1 wolf"

she ate 5 young wild boar and one wolf pup
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Warsaw2014
Mar 30 2015, 05:04 PM
"she ate 5 boars and 1 wolf"

she ate 5 young wild boar and one wolf pup


I would say Cougars have killed larger wolves.



Nordred
Mar 30 2015, 06:32 AM
How is possible a tiger can hunt a brown bear bigger than him?


They don't. That quote refers to a now deceased tiger called Dale - much vaunted as killing Bears "twice his size'. After much investigation a few years ago via email with the Siberian Tiger Project, the bears he killed were around his size, or smaller. That is is still impressive.

Edited by Taipan, Mar 30 2015, 06:42 PM.
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Yes Dale probabily could kill these bears but, when?

When they were still ivernating in their "lair"? or in a direct fight?

And a question, do you believe the word of an article posted before here what say "adult wild boars, are not afraid of "Queen of the forest"", is it true?

Mature wild boars can defense itselves against a tigress? I think yes, but im not an syberian nature specialist.
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Mar 30 2015, 06:38 PM

I would say Cougars have killed larger wolves.

you sure? to my knowledge only two adult males or at least teenage males have been killed, correct me if i'm wrong. and i don't remember a weight being recorded.
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Mar 30 2015, 10:01 PM
Yes Dale probabily could kill these bears but, when?

When they were still ivernating in their "lair"? or in a direct fight?

And a question, do you believe the word of an article posted before here what say "adult wild boars, are not afraid of "Queen of the forest"", is it true?

Mature wild boars can defense itselves against a tigress? I think yes, but im not an syberian nature specialist.
Direct fight that lasted 20 minutes. And Tigers hunt bears year round so hibernating bears are not the only option.
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Oh dear, wolfaboos coming out of the woodwork.
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i dont believe anyone's said anything defending a wolf against a tiger. a bit stupid to do so. if anything how about tiger haters?
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Nordred
Mar 30 2015, 10:01 PM
Yes Dale probabily could kill these bears but, when?


Dale killed bears that were a similar size to him or smaller according to email wit the STP.

kingkazma
Mar 31 2015, 01:02 AM
Taipan
Mar 30 2015, 06:38 PM

I would say Cougars have killed larger wolves.

you sure? to my knowledge only two adult males or at least teenage males have been killed, correct me if i'm wrong. and i don't remember a weight being recorded.


Two adult males are bigger than a pup.

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A tiger excels over a Cougar when it comes to killing predator and prey.
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ChazoG
Mar 31 2015, 04:49 PM
A tiger excels over a Cougar when it comes to killing predator and prey.


Is this another typical baseless Tiger fan comment, or are you going to produce the scientific study that established that?

Edited by Taipan, Mar 31 2015, 09:24 PM.
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Mar 29 2015, 06:28 AM
Tell me what can do a wolf against a tiger?

Wolves just may avoid them to sourvive at least in winter, where snow allows tigers catch wolves easier.

And wolves have never seen a tiger before, and they dont know what can they do... and probabily they arent enough cautious
Wolves would surely know the smell of a tiger, and recognise it as a threat. They interacted with tigers and cave lions for thousands of years before climate change killed off the latter and human hunting reduced the numbers of the former. I don't think the interval has been long enough time to lose an instinctive fear.
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Mar 31 2015, 04:43 PM
Two adult males are bigger than a pup.

oh that was a pup? and technically speaking yellowstone did have some pups that weighed 100+ pounds, but you're probably right.
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Mar 31 2015, 08:36 PM
Nordred
Mar 29 2015, 06:28 AM
Tell me what can do a wolf against a tiger?

Wolves just may avoid them to sourvive at least in winter, where snow allows tigers catch wolves easier.

And wolves have never seen a tiger before, and they dont know what can they do... and probabily they arent enough cautious
Wolves would surely know the smell of a tiger, and recognise it as a threat. They interacted with tigers and cave lions for thousands of years before climate change killed off the latter and human hunting reduced the numbers of the former. I don't think the interval has been long enough time to lose an instinctive fear.
i don't think they interacted with cave lions much. completely different prey to focus on.
Edited by kingkazma, Mar 31 2015, 09:53 PM.
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