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| ChazoG | Apr 1 2015, 03:31 AM Post #31 |
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Malaysian vs Saltwater crocodile : Siberian vs brown bear : In May 2014, an Amur tiger named Kuzya was released into the wild together with other tigers as part of efforts under the presidential programme for the conservation of rare animals. The tiger is leaving the Amur River territory and heading south, to the area where the Jewish Autonomous Region borders the Khabarovsk Territory, a press statement from the regional department for wildlife conservation has reported. The two other tigers, Ilona and Boris, are inhabiting the territory where they were released, namely at the Zheludinsky and Andreyevsky wildlife preserves, only seldom leaving the protected areas. The striped wild cats are monitored by Primorye specialists of the Tiger Special Inspectorate and game management specialists of the wildlife preserves. They say the animals got used to the new environment very fast and hunt small game, wild boars and roe deer. In September, Boris killed a bear. Specialists monitor the 1.5-year-old tigers by obtaining data from special satellite collars attached to them. The devices are programmed in a way that allows the wild cats get rid of them in one year and live independently. Source: http://programmes.putin.kremlin.ru/en/tiger/news/24889 A two-year old male amur tiger named Boris (Borya) killed a three year old bear. Unfortunately no further details are available.  I remember CWW saying something along the lines that mountain lions are the only felines to do this : " ... If the tiger comes up with the fleeing animal, he springs on to it, and simultaneously fixing one paw on to the shoulder, his fangs in the back of the neck, with the other forepaw hooked round the nose of the animal, he draws the nose inwards, so that the neck is bent round in a curve. In the meanwhile, the tiger's hindfeet are employed in tripping up the legs of the animal. These actions, with the combined impetus and weight of both animals, acting in the same direction, bring the whole mass down with a tremendous force on to the already bent neck of the animal, whose nose and head being bent inwards strike the ground obliquely, and so become doubled up under pressure of this enormous impetus and double weight. The result of this is obvious; the vertebrae of the neck is instantly snapped ... " (pp. 626). Edited by ChazoG, Apr 1 2015, 03:37 AM.
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| Mesopredator | Apr 1 2015, 04:07 AM Post #32 |
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Seeing as leopards prey on dogs, it doesn't suprise me. But, do not see wolves becoming a large percentage of the diet. How do wolves taste anyway? |
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| skarface | Apr 1 2015, 05:47 AM Post #33 |
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cougars bitches  Tiger fanboys are the most obtuse. Rivaled by leopard fanboys. On the topic, I dont see any surprise about a tiger killing a wolf, i suppose it's not very common as wolves will avoid tigers. |
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| kingkazma | Apr 1 2015, 06:37 AM Post #34 |
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that was some of the dumbest phrasing i've seen in a while. Edited by kingkazma, Apr 1 2015, 06:38 AM.
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| Taipan | Apr 1 2015, 09:39 PM Post #35 |
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 The efficiency of the kill will vary, depending on prey size, cougar size, angle of attack, and other circumstances. Hornocker found that cougars were successful 82 percent of the time in attacks on mule deer and elk in the Idaho Primitive Area.(27) http://www.mountainlion.org/CAL_ch4.asp (27) Hornocker, M.G. 1970. An analysis of mountain lion predation upon mule deer and elk in the Idaho Primative Area. Wildlife Monographs, 21:1-39, |
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| MightyKharza | Apr 1 2015, 11:20 PM Post #36 |
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Accounts on how wolf meat tastes vary greatly, with descriptions ranging from "tough",[254] "gristly",[256] "distasteful" and "smelly",[252] to "somewhat [resembling] chicken",[257] and "very superior to lean venison". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf#Hunting |
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| Shin | Apr 2 2015, 07:21 AM Post #37 |
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leopard fan boys?  tigers & lions maybe |
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| ChazoG | Apr 2 2015, 08:22 AM Post #38 |
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What I meant is inter species conflicts since you mentioned cougars killing wolves . even if we a parity wise due respective weights , Tigers kill bigger prey and predator |
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| Taipan | Apr 2 2015, 01:09 PM Post #39 |
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OK, lets ignore that Cougars are based on the above, superior predators of Deer & Elk then, and that based on size, a Cougar killing a wolf is far more impressive than a tiger killing a wolf - yeah lets ignore those - and oops - lets also ignore the cougars regular predator to prey size is far more superior than a tigers, and lets focus on bears tigers killing hibernating bears if that makes you feel better. |
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| ChazoG | Apr 2 2015, 10:43 PM Post #40 |
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Biggest predator that a Tiger has killed :Saltwater crocodile Biggest prey that a tiger has killed: asian elephant Edited by ChazoG, Apr 2 2015, 10:48 PM.
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| Inhumanum Rapax | Apr 2 2015, 11:09 PM Post #41 |
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@ChazoG, Does the name "Amur" mean anything to you? Also ChazoG is suspiciously similar to KayoP. |
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| Creeper | Apr 3 2015, 12:35 AM Post #42 |
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Are you ready to back those kills up with facts? How big are these Salties the tiger killed? Please tell me this isn't just an anecdotal tale told by some river guide. Are you talking about juvenile elephants? |
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| Warsaw2014 | Apr 3 2015, 02:23 AM Post #43 |
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Biggest prey that a tiger has killed: asian elephant "Although originally trained as an engineer at NITK, Surathkal in 1971, pursuing his deep passion for wildlife and Ullas Karanth started studying tiger ecology in India in 1986, obtaining his Masters Degree from University of Florida, USA (1988) and PhD from Mangalore University, India (1993). Dr. Karanth has worked extensively on tiger and prey ecology, published over 100 scientific papers and several books including The Way of the Tiger, A View from the Machan and Science of Saving Tigers. His focal areas of interest are: carnivore ecology , modeling of wildlife populations, and conservation policy. He has worked as a conservation scientist for the Wildlife Conservation Society since 1988, and is also the founder director of Centre for Wildlife Studies, Bangalore. He is currently Director for Science-Asia, with the Wildlife Conservation Society. He has served as board member of WWF India and been a Vice President of Bombay Natural History Society. He serves currently as member on the National Tiger Conservation Authority and the Governing Body of the Wildlife Institute of India. Dr. Karanth was elected a Fellow of Indian Academy of Sciences in 2008. He was awarded the Sierra Club’s International Earthcare award in 2006, J. Paul Getty Award of WWF in 2007 and Salim Ali Award for lifetime achievement from Bombay Natural History Society in 2009. He won the Karnataka Government’s Rajyothsava Award in 2010 and the Padmashree award from the President of India in 2012. https://nicholas.duke.edu/fergusonlecture/karanth/bio 1998 ESTIMATION OF TIGER DENSITIES IN INDIA USING PHOTOGRAPHIC CAPTURES AND RECAPTURES "...Tiger predation on Asian elephants (Elephas maximus) and one-horned rhinos (Rhinoceros unicornis) is rare and restricted to small calves. Therefore, we ignored these two species in our analysis of data from Kaziranga, where both occur, and from Nagarahole, where elephants are present..." http://repository.ias.ac.in/89442/1/3-P.pdf Rare Video Captures Tiger Making Its Kill Posted by Wildlife Conservation Society in Cat Watch on December 3, 2013 http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2013/12/03/rare-video-captures-tiger-making-its-kill/ By K. Ullas Karanth" 2013...Occasionally tigers kill calves of elephants and rhinos..." |
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| ChazoG | Apr 3 2015, 03:02 AM Post #44 |
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I don't think Corbett is some river guide   
Edited by ChazoG, Apr 3 2015, 03:04 AM.
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| Taipan | Apr 3 2015, 12:01 PM Post #45 |
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Based on the 'evidence' you have provided, the tiger remains the most over hyped feline species, some argue the most over hyped carnivoran. I was hoping you could mount a decent case, but you failed. |
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