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Are Lions the largest extant Cat?
Topic Started: May 23 2015, 12:12 AM (15,837 Views)
bitisgabonica
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are lions the largest cats alive? it is said that lions dont live full life unlike tigers so does it mean that lions at their full age are bigger than full adult tiggers?

is it possible that lions in their more battle prone environment do not groew to their original size because of mortality and would grow larger if they hadd the same mortality level as tigers?
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Usually, if i am right, big cats reach their full size and weight around nearly 7-8 years old, and i doubt the average lifespan of lions is less than that so you have your answer.

PS: i can smell the incoming debate around intraspecific mortality in both species.
Edited by ManEater, May 23 2015, 12:32 AM.
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Lions and tigers are mammals, and as such reach full size shortly after maturity. Because of this, even if lions are getting killed well before their natural lifespan would be over, they are making it to full size.

Just so you know, old age is a rare cause of death for ANYTHING in the wild. Predators starve, get killed by territorial rivals, their prey, or jackasses with rifles. Male lions are PROBABLY at more at risk than tigers due to being the pride's first line of defense against just about anything, but it's pretty rare that either animal would be passing away in their sleep of old age.
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Ligers are, surely..

Cat size variability/morphology is interesting, as are hormonal issues, growth & testosterone-wise..
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Being social also incurrs certain benefits in terms of mortality. Having a pride that can do the hunting for you certainly comes in helpful in some cases(yes, I know male lions hunt too, but they don’t have to). Social organisms can survive injuries that solitary ones couldn’t, because they aren’t left to starve if they cannot hunt.
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J.A.W.
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Male lions do "have to" hunt, from the time they are ejected from the pride on development,
- until they can re-assert a prime place in a pride, & use force-majure..
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I thought Tigers were bigger.
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J.A.W.
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Ligers are biggest..
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Naturally occurring animals..........
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J.A.W.
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Ligers are "actual largest cats",
"Battle Cat" & "Robo-lion" are.. fictional..
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Ligers really don't happen in nature NORMALY.
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J.A.W.
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Fairly unlikely occurrence in the much reduced natural habitat now shared by lions & tigers to be sure..
But not impossible.

& if by "normally" you mean by regular/natural mating behaviour vs in-vitro lab methods.. yeah it does..
Edited by J.A.W., May 23 2015, 07:49 AM.
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Well... in India there used to be a chance of interbreeding when lions were a bit more populous.
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J.A.W.
May 23 2015, 07:47 AM
Fairly unlikely occurrence in the much reduced natural habitat now shared by lions & tigers to be sure..
But not impossible.

& if by "normally" you mean by regular/natural mating behaviour vs in-vitro lab methods.. yeah it does..
Can you post any accounts/ any documentation of "ligers" occuring in natural settings then?
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Nope.

Bengal tigers are the largest felines alive today, both on average (221 kg vs 186 kg) as well as absolutely maximum sizes.
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