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what could beat an electric eel/electric catfish; at parity
Topic Started: Jul 6 2015, 02:32 AM (2,452 Views)
Vivyx
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I'm actually really not sure about this. Maybe a stingray could make an interesting match-up?
Edited by Vivyx, Dec 28 2016, 07:11 AM.
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A sawfish or sawshark could make an interesting matchup; can deal serious damage very quickly and with very short, minimal direct body contact.
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How about chironex fleckeri or physalia?
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Some marine mammals could use there sonar to stun it and then kill it, could fresh water dolphins do that?
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FelinePowah
Dec 29 2016, 09:12 PM
Some marine mammals could use there sonar to stun it and then kill it, could fresh water dolphins do that?
That definitely wouldn't be at parity.
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Dec 28 2016, 02:50 PM
How about chironex fleckeri or physalia?
I don't think they are immune to electricity, and they have to touch their opponents, while electric eels don't. I'd say the fish would still win.
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I dunno to what extent, but a lungfish could maybe do it. Supposedly they don't seem to care much about getting shocked.
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Dec 30 2016, 12:08 AM
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Dec 28 2016, 02:50 PM
How about chironex fleckeri or physalia?
I don't think they are immune to electricity, and they have to touch their opponents, while electric eels don't. I'd say the fish would still win.
Well, with physalia at least, electricity would not induce an escape response and it's weapons would not be neutralized by the fact that electricity is killing it the way it would with other animals. In fact a dead Cnidarian can still sting. Also, it has a huge range that would allow the bell to remain outside the most lethal zone of charge, while still making contact with its tentacles.

In laboratory experiments, electricity is used to induce polyps to enter medusa phase, though I'm unsure of the amount.
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I don't really know enough about cnidarians to say more about it. Maybe it's worth looking for interactions between electric rays and these jellyfish and the like, even though they aren't as powerful as the freshwater electric eels.

Does someone know if an electric eel can induce electrical burns? I've heard they can generate a current of 1 ampere, which should be more than enough, but as far as I know they can't really burn flesh. Maybe these jolts just last too little for it?

According to this page:
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While any amount of current over 10 milliamps (0.01 amp) is capable of producing painful to severe shock, currents between 100 and 200 mA (0.1 to 0.2 amp) are lethal. Currents above 200 milliamps (0.2 amp), while producing severe burns and unconsciousness, do not usually cause death if the victim is given immediate attention. Resuscitation, consisting of artificial respiration, will usually revive the victim.
For comparison, a milliamp is one thousandth of an ampere.

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I want to geneer a saltwater electric eel. It's voltage is already so powerful in freshwater just think of the possibilities should it exist in saltwater. It would be invincible! Anyway I think the Physalia would lose because the electric shock would travel up its tentacles to the bell. It's also 90% or more water with organic particles which is an excellent conductor. As for the stings killing the eel after the jelly is dead, the eel wins the moment it kills the jelly. So I'm not taking that into account.
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Why not make the physalia vs eletric eel match up in fantasy section ( yes, it needs to be in fantasy section because match ups featuring saltwater vs freshwater creatures aren't accepted anymore ).
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Pistol Shrimp could take an electric eel at parity.
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Pistol shrimp wouldn't be able to perform sonic bullet at parity. The claw would be too big and heavy to close fast enough. Also the eel is 2 meters long. If you're talking about downsizing the eel the charge would be much weaker and the eel would lose cause it's too small. So we're comparing animals that are actually at parity with the eel without downsizing or upsizing.
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Maby something with redicilously quick fast acting venom. A Sea Snake of some sort, perhaps something like a spitting Cobra. A Monkey could probably get it out of thewater fast enough before it dies, atleast in theory.
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Dec 30 2016, 02:28 PM
Pistol shrimp wouldn't be able to perform sonic bullet at parity. The claw would be too big and heavy to close fast enough. Also the eel is 2 meters long. If you're talking about downsizing the eel the charge would be much weaker and the eel would lose cause it's too small. So we're comparing animals that are actually at parity with the eel without downsizing or upsizing.
Well I was just mentioning its weaponry without taking scaling effects in account and I'm not sure why downsizing the eel is a problem. But just threw out my opinion and not interested in debating this one.
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