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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 16 2015, 01:55 PM (2,644 Views) | |
| Grimace | Feb 24 2017, 11:06 AM Post #16 |
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That picture is from an iguana, not a crocodile monitor. Assuming you're telling the truth, then you have only been bitten by very small iguanas. Iguana bites are horrific and cause deep awful slashing wounds. |
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| Ceph | Feb 24 2017, 11:44 AM Post #17 |
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When I was a lad we had an iguana. It eventually grew very large, but while it was small, maybe 30 cm snout to vent, it bit my fathers nose. He had two deep lacerations, one on each side of his bridge. He didn't seek medical attention, but he should have gotten stitches. He had pretty prominent scaring for the rest of his life from the bite. |
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| Grimace | Feb 24 2017, 12:01 PM Post #18 |
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Yeah, they make me nervous, especially with how randomly they can decide to bite something. I trust my water monitor with my fingers way more than I do with either of my green iguanas. hahaha |
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| Grazier | Feb 24 2017, 12:33 PM Post #19 |
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Are Australian water dragons related to iguanas? They look just like them and also bite very hard, I picked one up with heavy thick gardening gloves and it bit my thumb/hand area and it felt like metal pliers crushing down on me. |
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| Ceratodromeus | Feb 25 2017, 02:24 AM Post #20 |
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Aspiring herpetologist
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Somewhat distantly, they are agamids within the Suborder Iguania. |
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| Vivyx | Feb 25 2017, 03:48 AM Post #21 |
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Felines, sharks, birds, arthropods
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There is some serious underestimation of iguanas in this thread. I've actually encountered pet ones and I can tell you that they are nothing to mess with at all. They are very quick (at least the green ones) and aggressive. I haven't been bitten by one, but their bite actually seem more more serious than some monitors judging by accounts and pictures that I have seen on the amount of damage that they can inflict. Just because it's a herbivore doesn't mean that it's an animal to underestimate.
Edited by Vivyx, Feb 25 2017, 03:49 AM.
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| LeopardNimr | Feb 25 2017, 04:16 AM Post #22 |
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Herbivore
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snakes aren't durable... i love and learn about mammal carnivores yet i know that snakes aren't as armored as they look they get injured even if you don't see it obviously they are more durable than humans... |
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| Ceratodromeus | Feb 25 2017, 04:58 AM Post #23 |
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Aspiring herpetologist
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When you come onto a thread to spout ignorant nonsense, but also that you can say you like big mammalian carnivores. Stick to cats kid. |
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| Ceph | Feb 25 2017, 05:28 AM Post #24 |
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I agree with Cerato. You clearly are not properly utilizing the forum. There is so much information regarding the abuse snakes can endure on here. They survive damage that no mammal could. Do a little research before you spout such rubbish, you don't even have to leave this site, or this thread for that matter. Also, there is far more to durability than armor. |
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| Vivyx | Feb 25 2017, 05:34 AM Post #25 |
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I don't think that you have read any of the accounts of snake durability that has posted here and on multiple other threads relating to pythons. They can survive amazing amounts of durability. Here is another account that Tyrant has posted here on a python managing to survive grievous wounds for quite some time: http://carnivoraforum.com/single/?p=8520620&t=9722432 Obviously the python did die, but what was impressive was the fact that the python was able to give the man quite the fight even when he was armed with a knife. But if we really need to show it to you more just to prove that these kinds of durability feats aren't flukes: "A 48-year-old experienced wildlife rehabilitator was attacked in her kitchen by a 14-foot boa constrictor as she reached into the tank to give the animal water. The snake bit her hand and coiled half of its around her arm. The woman began to feel weak and faint during the 20-minute attack. Firefighters attempted to cut off the snake’s head to free her. The partially decapitated snake survived and was sent to a veterinary college. Days later, the woman still had not recovered sensation in parts of her hand." http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_14423907141809&drKey=1082&libId=iemi5jol01000bl0000DAmehwimh7&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcarnivoraforum.com%2Ftopic%2F10103720%2F1%2F&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanesociety.org%2Fassets%2Fpdfs%2Fwildlife%2Fcaptive%2Fconstrictor-snake-attacks.pdf&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fcarnivoraforum.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fc%3D1%26q%3DBurmese%2Bpython%26type%3Dtopic%26sort%3Ddesc%26forum%255B%255D%3D-1%26s_m%3D2%26s_d%3D25%26s_y%3D2011%26e_m%3D9%26e_d%3D16%26e_y%3D2015&title=Human%20(Strong%20male)%20v%20Burmese%20Python&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanesociety.org%2Fassets%2Fpdfs%2Fwildlife%2Fcaptive%2Fconstrictor-snake-attacks.pdf http://carnivoraforum.com/single/?p=10022968&t=10363622 |
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| LeopardNimr | Feb 25 2017, 06:32 AM Post #26 |
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i've said i dunno no about reptiles you as an adult should correct me not spam hate and agian you are an adult that should act well and not like a douche i love carnivores of all types from the weasel to the polar bear cats are my favorite snakes don't seem durable a feral dog near my home killd a snake in one bite and a cat killed another snaked with a swipe to the head leopards seem to do easily face to face with rock pythons they heavily injure the snake in each swipe that's why he curl back don't he? reptiles are thicker than mammals i haven't said else so ceph and vivyx? your "like" means that you want me to shut up? i have bad english so you should don't take me for real? if there is any communication problem of all sort please tell and i'll try to explain what i say i don't use it right becuase i say something and you guys spam your faeces right up? logic can be used right? have i said something that stuipd? i don't know about snakes! so maybe i can learn something from this posts! you guys son't even litsen to me? what so crazy about what i say? yes snakes aren't as durable as a croc that's what i ment to say i haven't say a mammal is more durable snakes aren't intresting for me i don't know faeces about them so maybe i can learn? durability is thickness and pain tolerance and "softing" harder attacks you are a grandfather right? i am a 14 year old who don't know about reptiles can't you guys be nicer? i honestly hate humans be a little bit nicer! you have got the idea that i am an idiot. long story short . i am not. but i don't really put attention to what i type grammar and missing things i can talk perfectly rather than type Edited by LeopardNimr, Feb 25 2017, 06:38 AM.
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| Ceratodromeus | Feb 25 2017, 06:40 AM Post #27 |
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I shouldn't have to correct you, there are less than three pages on this thread. read them. "spam hate" yeah okay. I am spamming nothing, you on the other hand, consistently and utterly do this on every thread. case and point?
So educate yourself, stop spamming about unrelated animals, and get a clue. they liked my post because your posts are plainly stupid. so if you don't want to read a two page thread and see that you are just spouting ignorance, leave the thread.
It requires you to read, that is literally all you have to do. Can you not do that?
We do't listen to you because you say ignorant things and refuse to read a two page thread, all the meanwhile spamming the thread with your fanatical love for cats. Stop. |
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| LeopardNimr | Feb 25 2017, 06:53 AM Post #28 |
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dude. you said the word cat you said that i don't like anything except cat so i told you i love all carnivores i haven't said any thing about an hyena a jaguar or a leopard "plainly stuipd" i don't know faeces about snakes correct me i haven't noticed the other pages i'll check them i've said that i love and learn about mammals and i don't know about reptiles i haven'ts say that my leopard is thicker by 1000000!!!!!1!!!!! than a croc can you please provid me with a source that i spammed about any mammal carnivore in this topic except that stuipd fight that reminds me aren't you an ADULT? you are sitting next to the computer with cheeto dust all over your shirt and fighting a PLAINLY STUIPD CAT KID go find some anaconda in the amazons or something do something with your life! except fighting me about air but WAIT HOLDUP! i am so ignorance dumb and plainly stuipd! you are fighting me? me? a cat fanboy? what the f*ck? how come it happen? NOOOOOOOO!!!!! you got trapped in this never ending tourtre that is could fighting with an idiot don't quote i am out of this thread Edited by LeopardNimr, Feb 25 2017, 07:06 AM.
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| Vivyx | Feb 25 2017, 07:08 AM Post #29 |
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Spamming? You are one to talk considering that you are constantly posting irrelevant comments about certain mammalian carnivores in topics that aren't even related to it. In almost every topic that you post on, you are always trying to find an opportunity to mention a leopard even when it's unnecessary. What Ceratodromeus is saying here isn't even close to spamming. Anecdotal accounts of animals killing snakes with a single bite are not as reliable as accounts with evidence of durability given from people who specialize in areas involving snakes. It should also be worth noting that you didn't mention which kind of snake it was in your anecdotes, they might have been small venomous snakes in contrast to the large and thick-bodied snakes we are talking about in this thread. Dying from a bite to the skull isn't something to be too ashamed of either; many animals would die from a bite to the skull. Even then, though, there are videos (on this thread, btw) of snakes surviving bites onto the skull by crocodilians. You might have meant that snakes aren't as durable as crocodilians, but you should have made that clear in contrast to the vague claim of 'snakes aren't durable'. I don't think you get why me and Ceph liked his post as well, it's not because of any communication problem that you have but rather because we can't take you seriously in such a thread where you ignore evidence against your preconceived opinions on this topic. I think that it is important that you educate yourself on this subject without needing so much help from everybody else. It's nothing personal against you, it's just that we want people to improve the standards of their posting by being educated in specific subjects and relying more on authentic/reliable accounts to support claims rather than anecdotes and imagination. I will admit that my previous posts were incredibly cringeworthy, but I managed to improve my standard of posting through experience on this forum and observation on the type of posting that should be required on this forum. Edited by Vivyx, Feb 25 2017, 07:11 AM.
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| Ceratodromeus | Feb 25 2017, 08:37 AM Post #30 |
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I said the word cat.........ok? also, regarding the last statement here, it's a Very strong strawman, i am not surprised. I don't and can't even begin to be bothered by the rest of this nonsense.
Yes. Do we really want to go there though? what even is this
I wish i had cheetos... There is no "fight", you went into meltdown mode, i didn't call you stupid or ignorant, i said your posts are; oh boy they are. Like kiddo all you had to do was read two pages, that's how you learn, you couldn't even do that. It's sad Edited by Ceratodromeus, Feb 25 2017, 08:46 AM.
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