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Chimpanzee fighting ability
Topic Started: Nov 6 2015, 01:35 PM (3,934 Views)
Tyrant
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Seeing as chimpanzees are incapable of punching, aren't inclined to choke opponents, don't have particularly dangerous bites compared to other animals, and there have been no records of a single chimpanzee killing another large healthy animal, I remain unimpressed. The videos I have found concerning this topic only solidify my view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoK5Ql10pY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7XuXi3mqYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh1Em4Sdzec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPznMbNcfO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pir3MtYepoY

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh5UR58SRQ1pQ24rUH
Edited by Tyrant, Nov 6 2015, 02:46 PM.
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As far as I'm aware, chimps are pretty ok at mauling things, but pretty bad at actually causing lethal damage
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As far as I'm aware, chimps are pretty ok at mauling things, but pretty bad at actually causing lethal damage


The only way I can see a chimp killing anything that isn't smaller than a typical monkey is if it wrestles it to the ground and slowly bites it to death. That of course would require a great strength advantage which in turn requires a significant weight advantage.
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Of course they cant beat anything bigger than them, humans have always been able to defeat them in fights without any injure or trouble at all... oh wait

Also, does anyone have accounts of an asian gaur killing a human? By logic they should be weaker than a bee
Edited by Wombatman, Nov 6 2015, 07:56 PM.
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Nov 6 2015, 07:51 PM
Of course they cant beat anything bigger than them, humans have always been able to defeat them in fights without any injure or trouble at all... oh wait

Also, does anyone have accounts of an asian gaur killing a human? By logic they should be weaker than a bee
Basically everyone who gets attacked by a chimp gets attacked forlike 20 minutes and survives with just scars and missing fingers.
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Of course they cant beat anything bigger than them, humans have always been able to defeat them in fights without any injure or trouble at all... oh wait


Cmon buddy, you know humans don't count. Besides, most accounts involve enraged chimps and terrified old/unfit people.

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Also, does anyone have accounts of an asian gaur killing a human? By logic they should be weaker than a bee


We have plenty of accounts of similarly designed bovines pulling off impressive feats like bulldozing cars and beating up big cats. Chimps on the other hand, not only have nothing go for them evidence seems to go against them.




Edited by Tyrant, Nov 6 2015, 11:11 PM.
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Nov 6 2015, 08:10 PM
Basically everyone who gets attacked by a chimp gets attacked forlike 20 minutes and survives with just scars and missing fingers.
Would an animal survive in the wild with a missing face, eyes, hands, feet, fingers and/or genitals?
Come at me with freak incidents if you want

And tyrant, we could apply the same to chimpanzees, comparing feats with other apes, as for beating big cats, leopards have been killed by chimps and gorillas (even though some people rejects to believe on the evidence)

I will go a bit troll and say that big bulls have been killed by humans bare handed, but never a chimpanzee. Knowing that a dense person could think bulls are less dangerous or strong than chimps
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Would an animal survive in the wild with a missing face, eyes, hands, feet, fingers and/or genitals?


Pretty sure his point was that most animals the chimp's size and in the same position would have flat out killed those people.

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And tyrant, we could apply the same to chimpanzees, comparing feats with other apes, as for beating big cats, leopards have been killed by chimps and gorillas (even though some people rejects to believe on the evidence)


I read the first account it involved a young leopard and it almost certainly been attacked by a group of chimps. And gorillas? That's not a fair comparison at all. Gorilla are more than twice the size of chimp and far more robust. A gaur on the other hand is one of the strongest bovines on the other and probably the largest.

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Bovines need also a pretty good size advantage to kill a large cat.
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Nov 6 2015, 11:18 PM
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Would an animal survive in the wild with a missing face, eyes, hands, feet, fingers and/or genitals?


Pretty sure his point was that most animals the chimp's size and in the same position would have flat out killed those people.

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And tyrant, we could apply the same to chimpanzees, comparing feats with other apes, as for beating big cats, leopards have been killed by chimps and gorillas (even though some people rejects to believe on the evidence)


I read the first account it involved a young leopard and it almost certainly been attacked by a group of chimps. And gorillas? That's not a fair comparison at all. Gorilla are more than twice the size of chimp and far more robust. A gaur on the other hand is one of the strongest bovines on the other and probably the largest.

the leopard was scavenged... ^o)

unless you believe chimps can pull off
'neck breaks' on big cats...
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Probably at least somewhat relevant:
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Here is an article with some predation info; see Table 1 on page 5 for a summary.
There was a case of a lone chimpanzee repelling a leopard, but also:
6 chimpanzee deaths, 4 chimpanzee injuries and 22
interactions with leopards occurred in 5 years; 39% of
chimpanzee deaths due to leopards, chimpanzees
mobbed and chased leopards.
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Nov 6 2015, 11:37 PM
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Would an animal survive in the wild with a missing face, eyes, hands, feet, fingers and/or genitals?


Pretty sure his point was that most animals the chimp's size and in the same position would have flat out killed those people.

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And tyrant, we could apply the same to chimpanzees, comparing feats with other apes, as for beating big cats, leopards have been killed by chimps and gorillas (even though some people rejects to believe on the evidence)


I read the first account it involved a young leopard and it almost certainly been attacked by a group of chimps. And gorillas? That's not a fair comparison at all. Gorilla are more than twice the size of chimp and far more robust. A gaur on the other hand is one of the strongest bovines on the other and probably the largest.

the leopard was scavenged... ^o)

unless you believe chimps can pull off
'neck breaks' on big cats...
A leopard breaking its own neck is more believable?
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Nov 7 2015, 05:47 AM
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Nov 6 2015, 11:18 PM

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the leopard was scavenged... ^o)

unless you believe chimps can pull off
'neck breaks' on big cats...
A leopard breaking its own neck is more believable?
a fall would do that...a chimp would not lol
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Stop acting as if you knew how this leopard died, nobody knows it.
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Bovines need also a pretty good size advantage to kill a large cat.


That was just me mentioning a feat. A buffalo or gaur definitely could gore a similar sized animal to death, just look at what happens to horses in spanish bull fighting rings.
Edited by Tyrant, Nov 7 2015, 07:11 AM.
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