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Cat catches barn owl
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 12 2015, 08:55 PM (2,744 Views)
Mesopredator	Nov 12 2015, 08:55 PM Post #1
Disaster taxa Posts: 1,902 Group: Members Member #499 Joined: Aug 6, 2012



Canadianwildlife	Nov 12 2015, 10:07 PM Post #2
Apex Predator Posts: 4,560 Group: Members Member #1,984 Joined: Dec 15, 2013	I saw the cat I've been trying to catch earlier a few nights ago. Just this morning a great horned owl was perched around the exact same area. Screeched very loud, then softened to a hoot. Scared the heck out of me. Its such an ongoing problem. Whether feral or domestic, cats are nothing but pesty invasive species. This video is downright frustrating, not to mention aggravating. I'd like to see that cat even dare and try to attack an aware great horned owl and come out alive or without serious injury. They don't even have the nerve to attack a 2-3 lb hawk on the ground when its aware of their presence. Edited by Canadianwildlife, Nov 12 2015, 10:25 PM.



Shin	Nov 12 2015, 11:37 PM Post #3
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FelinePowah	Nov 13 2015, 01:50 AM Post #4
Pussy Lover Posts: 3,273 Group: Members Member #66 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	Canadianwildlife Nov 12 2015, 10:07 PM I saw the cat I've been trying to catch earlier a few nights ago. Just this morning a great horned owl was perched around the exact same area. Screeched very loud, then softened to a hoot. Scared the heck out of me. Its such an ongoing problem. Whether feral or domestic, cats are nothing but pesty invasive species. This video is downright frustrating, not to mention aggravating. I'd like to see that cat even dare and try to attack an aware great horned owl and come out alive or without serious injury. They don't even have the nerve to attack a 2-3 lb hawk on the ground when its aware of their presence. Blame humans not the cat......the cats are just living their lives and adapting the best they cat......luckily they are very adaptable...



Mesopredator	Nov 13 2015, 03:36 AM Post #5
Disaster taxa Posts: 1,902 Group: Members Member #499 Joined: Aug 6, 2012	I mainly dislike domestic cats which eat from two plates. Feral cats might not be appropriate in certain environments - mainly islands, also Australia though to a lesser extent. At least feral cats take both the upsides and the downsides from the wild life. They might even end up in the diet of larger predators - if those are around. On the other hand domestic cats that are free to roam can take the upsides and be sheltered from the downsides. Thus they can also reach much higher density as they are not limited as much. I don't even see that much distinction between the wildcat and true feral cats in Europe. Of course, I do understand that people rather have the authentic wild cat than a former house cat, but ecologically I see no distinction. And even true feral cats, which are larger and bulkier as domestic ones, can be hard to distinguish from wildcats. Not saying that's a good argument in favor of them or anything. Similar things could be said about American minks versus European minks or Canadian beaver versus European beaver. Here's a cat taken by coyotes:



FelinePowah	Nov 13 2015, 05:21 AM Post #6
Pussy Lover Posts: 3,273 Group: Members Member #66 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	And you are showing the cat being killed by the coyotes because??



Mesopredator	Nov 13 2015, 06:15 AM Post #7
Disaster taxa Posts: 1,902 Group: Members Member #499 Joined: Aug 6, 2012	FelinePowah Nov 13 2015, 05:21 AM And you are showing the cat being killed by the coyotes because?? You know, I wasn't going to tell you, but okay. It symbolizes the obscene perversion of the condition of life as we know it. No, it was just that I found the video on the same channel and wanted to show that cats get eaten too and the circle of life goes on and on and on. I don't see why you have to ask this unless you are bothered by the event of cat being the one eaten instead of, say, the other way around... I see this as no different as a leopard taking a gazelle or the barn owl being caught by a cat. That's life. Or you seem to accuse me of some kind of intense cat hatred. But okay, let's be nice. You are perfectly right that those problems I have with domesticated cats are caused by humans not by the cats themselves. All the cats do is doing what a cat wants to do. In a way, it would be better if people would just keep cats indoors than the coyotes eating them. I would agree with you there. Otherwise I don't see what the fuzz is.



zergthe	Nov 13 2015, 10:59 AM Post #8
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,889 Group: Members Member #3,343 Joined: May 13, 2015	coughs It's the Ciiircle Of Liiife! Heyayahey!



kuri	Nov 13 2015, 03:42 PM Post #9
Omnivore Posts: 1,098 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: Jan 6, 2012	Mesopredator Nov 13 2015, 06:15 AM You know, I wasn't going to tell you, but okay. It symbolizes the obscene perversion of the condition of life as we know it. No, it was just that I found the video on the same channel and wanted to show that cats get eaten too and the circle of life goes on and on and on. I don't see why you have to ask this unless you are bothered by the event of cat being the one eaten instead of, say, the other way around... I see this as no different as a leopard taking a gazelle or the barn owl being caught by a cat. That's life. Or you seem to accuse me of some kind of intense cat hatred. But okay, let's be nice. You are perfectly right that those problems I have with domesticated cats are caused by humans not by the cats themselves. All the cats do is doing what a cat wants to do. In a way, it would be better if people would just keep cats indoors than the coyotes eating them. I would agree with you there. Otherwise I don't see what the fuzz is. i thought the same as FelinePowah, for a lot this forum is a battlefield. And the soldiers are their favorite animal...the fights were held in form of posting of youtube videos. Cats vs dogs Bird of prey vs cats ....



Taipan	Nov 13 2015, 07:38 PM Post #10
Administrator Posts: 18,014 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Mesopredator Nov 12 2015, 08:55 PM What an amazing animal felis silvestris in all its forms. Its that kind of speed and reflexes that have made it such a successful predator. More kudos to that cat if it was a domestic, they are usually subpar specimens in both physique and hunting ability to their wild counterparts!



Canadianwildlife	Nov 13 2015, 07:43 PM Post #11
Apex Predator Posts: 4,560 Group: Members Member #1,984 Joined: Dec 15, 2013	I sense something is being done on purpose. I sense a trap. Edited by Canadianwildlife, Nov 13 2015, 07:51 PM.



Grimace	Nov 13 2015, 08:36 PM Post #12
Kleptoparasite Posts: 2,288 Group: Members Member #2,170 Joined: Feb 11, 2014	Taipan Nov 13 2015, 07:38 PM Mesopredator Nov 12 2015, 08:55 PM What an amazing animal felis silvestris in all its forms. Its that kind of speed and reflexes that have made it such a successful predator. More kudos to that cat if it was a domestic, they are usually subpar specimens in both physique and hunting ability to their wild counterparts! I feel like a lot of that is due to human help though. It helps a TON to have people feeding you as a backup. I'd imagine it'd be the same situation with just about any carnivore if suddenly everyone had one and allowed it to roam free while also feeding it and giving it vet care.



Taipan	Nov 13 2015, 09:55 PM Post #13
Administrator Posts: 18,014 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Grimace Nov 13 2015, 08:36 PM Taipan Nov 13 2015, 07:38 PM Mesopredator Nov 12 2015, 08:55 PM What an amazing animal felis silvestris in all its forms. Its that kind of speed and reflexes that have made it such a successful predator. More kudos to that cat if it was a domestic, they are usually subpar specimens in both physique and hunting ability to their wild counterparts! I feel like a lot of that is due to human help though. It helps a TON to have people feeding you as a backup. I'd imagine it'd be the same situation with just about any carnivore if suddenly everyone had one and allowed it to roam free while also feeding it and giving it vet care. felis silvestris doesnt require humans to feed it.



Grimace	Nov 13 2015, 10:25 PM Post #14
Kleptoparasite Posts: 2,288 Group: Members Member #2,170 Joined: Feb 11, 2014	Taipan Nov 13 2015, 09:55 PM Grimace Nov 13 2015, 08:36 PM Taipan Nov 13 2015, 07:38 PM Quoting limited to 3 levels deepfelis silvestris in all its forms. Its that kind of speed and reflexes that have made it such a successful predator. More kudos to that cat if it was a domestic, they are usually subpar specimens in both physique and hunting ability to their wild counterparts! I feel like a lot of that is due to human help though. It helps a TON to have people feeding you as a backup. I'd imagine it'd be the same situation with just about any carnivore if suddenly everyone had one and allowed it to roam free while also feeding it and giving it vet care. felis silvestris doesnt require humans to feed it. WWell yeah, but it helps them out a -ton-. Not nearly as many feral cats in areas completely devoid of human presence.



Taipan	Nov 13 2015, 10:32 PM Post #15
Administrator Posts: 18,014 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Grimace Nov 13 2015, 10:25 PM WWell yeah, but it helps them out a -ton-. Not nearly as many feral cats in areas completely devoid of human presence. Domestic cats tend to be fatter, lazier and less skilled than their wild counterparts - so no, I disagree it doesn't help them at all.



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