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Tilikum, the SeaWorld orca who killed his trainer, has died
Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:18 AM (2,611 Views)
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Tilikum, the orca that killed a trainer at SeaWorld Orlando in 2010, has died, his owners have announced. SeaWorld said it was "deeply saddened" by the killer whale's death, saying Tilikum had suffered serious health issues but did not give a cause of death. He was estimated to be 36 years old and was born in waters off Iceland.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38531967
Edited by Carnoferox, Jan 9 2017, 03:27 PM.
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May he rest in peace.

Edited by Thalassophoneus, Jan 7 2017, 07:38 AM.
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Sad to hear this news.
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I don't know how to react to this, it's an Orca (that has killed someone) dying.

But to be honest I hate Humans so I don't care about the Human death.
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But to be honest I hate Humans so I don't care about the Human death.

I really, deeply wish that you are joking.
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No i'am not joking. We have caused the extinction of countless Animals and are killing Animals just for money and profit, and we are now destroying our beautiful planet for unnecessary reasons whilst roasting it at the same time. So why should i like Humans and why should I care about 1 Human death?
Edited by Mammuthus, Jan 7 2017, 08:32 AM.
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What you say sounds really bad towards humans. Also, Tilikum couldn't possibly be blamed for being a predatory cetacean. It's very easy for a creature like him to harm a human. In my opinion it was a good choice to stop waterworks.
Edited by Thalassophoneus, Jan 7 2017, 08:38 AM.
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No i'am not joking. We have caused the extinction of countless Animals and are killing Animals just for money and profit, and we are now destroying our beautiful planet for unnecessary reasons.
So why should i like Humans and why should I care about 1 human death?

Because you are a human yourself. Valuing other species over your own is unnatural and edgy. If you don't like humans and don't care about them, I would like to see how you would react to your family/friends dieing. Actually, why are you even living? You are a human, you produce trash, animals are killed to feed you and etc. And you hate humans? So you hate all of us here; you hate your friends and family etc?

Did you knew Tilikum's trainer? Do you know the suffering that her family, children and friends suffered from her death? And you "don't care"? Well, I would like to watch your reaction if your mom got killed by a snake for example and someone said that they "dont care". That's ridiculous and sad.
My response to you about we being monsters because we hurt nature and sht can be pretty much said by Ausar in this old post:
"How could you advocate the extinction of your OWN species? If those people are bitching about the fact that they're human (subhuman in my eyes), they can just take off their clothes, go live in the wild, and screech like monkeys for all I care. If you really advocate the extinction of your own species, then yes, I would consider you a monster."
http://carnivoraforum.com/single/?p=8425073&t=9780729
Edited by SETA222, Jan 7 2017, 08:54 AM.
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Jan 7 2017, 08:43 AM


Did you knew Tilikum's trainer? Do you know the suffering that her family, children and friends suffered from her death?
Do you know the suffering of countless Baby Rhinos seeing their mother getting shot? Do you know the suffering of countless Polar Bears starving because of us? Do you know the suffering of loads of Elephants herds loosing members simply because Humans want to make profit?
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"Humans want to make a profit" is an edgy generalization. And the stuff you mention are not a reason to say "I hate humans".
I wonder what would Dawn Brancheau think if she was alive to see what happened with SeaWorld. Seeing her old friend dying and the park where she worked for years deteriorating.
Edited by Thalassophoneus, Jan 7 2017, 09:02 AM.
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Jan 7 2017, 09:00 AM
"Humans want to make a profit" is an edgy generalization. And the stuff you mention are not a reason to say "I hate humans".
Ok, but explain all the other ones.
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Do you know the suffering of countless Baby Rhinos seeing their mother getting shot? Do you know the suffering of countless Polar Bears starving because of us? Do you know the suffering of loads of Elephants herds loosing members simply because Humans want to make profit?

And how do you know that the trainer was in favour of that? Now because some people kill elephants and rhinos you hate your entire kind? That's so edgy and ridiculous. Also, are you a vegan? If not, have you ever thought about the suffering of the cow calves, pig or whatever? Hating your own kind is antissocial and ridiculous. You have not answered my question: if you hate humans, do you hate your friends and family and yourself? If you do, then why don't you suicide and stop making the cows suffer, spending energy, producing trash and etc? That's so hypocrite.
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Ok, but explain all the other ones.

Funny how you told that to him but you didn't even answer 1/4 of my post.
EDIT: Not to mention that some topics ago you said you was going to "ask a girl out". Do you hate her too? Keep in mind lots of cows and other animals were killed to feed her, not to mention the trash she has produced to the world.
Now on topic, may the beautiful animal go in peace.
Edited by SETA222, Jan 7 2017, 09:10 AM.
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Today I saw on a video on YouTube that Tilikum was once a candidate for release, which was under US law thus SeaWorld couldn't possibly dissobey this. However he was considered unable to be released. It's the video I posted in the beginning of the thread.
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By the way just a litte thing: I actually know the suffering of the rhinos, bears etc and I feel bad and care about it, just because I preffer my kind over different species does not mean that I hate them or dont give a sht when they die. Your post is meaningless.
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Jan 7 2017, 08:58 AM
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Jan 7 2017, 08:43 AM


Did you knew Tilikum's trainer? Do you know the suffering that her family, children and friends suffered from her death?
Do you know the suffering of countless Baby Rhinos seeing their mother getting shot? Do you know the suffering of countless Polar Bears starving because of us? Do you know the suffering of loads of Elephants herds loosing members simply because Humans want to make profit?
So keep your anger towards the people who actually cause all of these things. They don't justify hating your species as a whole and being indifferent to the death of someone who hasn't done anything on the magnitude of the things you mentioned (well, at least as far as we know).
Edited by Ausar, Jan 7 2017, 09:17 AM.
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