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how the leopard and snow leopard do in the new world
Topic Started: Jan 23 2017, 12:21 AM (638 Views)
LeopardNimr
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in a biosphere with big predators and prey
and different landscapes
how would they evolve and do?
Edited by LeopardNimr, Jan 23 2017, 12:38 AM.
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Really depends on where this "different landscape" is, to be honest. Give me a landscape and i shall give my opinion on it...
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Jan 23 2017, 12:30 AM
Really depends on where this "different landscape" is, to be honest. Give me a landscape and i shall give my opinion on it...
arizona british columbia
yosemite national park
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arizona british coloumbia

Regular Leopards would have to develop a much thicker coats, but Snow Leopards don't have a problem with that. Regular Leopards would probably have to develop a more stocky and robust body. As for competition for food well I don't see them posing any threat to large Ursus's, and they'd get overwhelmed by large packs of Wolves, but Cougars it's a 50/50 if they encounter each other.
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Both would do well, the common leopard especially.

The snow leopard would do well in the Rockies, Yukon and the Andes. Plenty of prey for them there: the various wild species of sheep and the mountain goat of North America, and guanacos in South America. Not much competition for resources from other carnivores - and snow leopards encounter wolves and bears in their native range in Asia.

Leopards are able to survive in a hostile environment bristling with competition from larger predators that could easily kill it - in Africa. They are also able to adapt to almost any habitat, from deserts to mountains to rainforests, even into the Russian Far East where thick snow falls on the ground in winter; some leopards even venture into urban areas. Surviving in an environment that has less competition means that leopards will survive and expand across the Americas, possibly even outcompeting the cougar.
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Both would do well, the common leopard especially.

The snow leopard would do well in the Rockies, Yukon and the Andes. Plenty of prey for them there: the various wild species of sheep and the mountain goat of North America, and guanacos in South America. Not much competition for resources from other carnivores - and snow leopards encounter wolves and bears in their native range in Asia.

Leopards are able to survive in a hostile environment bristling with competition from larger predators that could easily kill it - in Africa. They are also able to adapt to almost any habitat, from deserts to mountains to rainforests, even into the Russian Far East where thick snow falls on the ground in winter; some leopards even venture into urban areas. Surviving in an environment that has less competition means that leopards will survive and expand across the Americas, possibly even outcompeting the cougar.
leopards live with tigers lions bears wolves dholes hyenas of all kinds wild dogs cheetahs
and many other species
thats why saying that wolves and bears will kill it
the other cats like jags and cougars can compete
i think you are right over all...
i wonder how they would evolve
bigger/smaller?
an californian leopard subspecies sounds cool to me lol
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The leopard is a very impressive animal, seems like it could thrive and be an invasive pest nearly anywhere in the world. The snow leopard seems like a good fit for the andes as mentioned.
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Leopard fill the same niche as the Cougar...would be killed by Wolf packs though. As lone wolves don't wonder off by themselves like Hyenas, and if the Leopard especially FEMALES didn't give their kill up fast enough, it would be attacked.
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Jan 23 2017, 12:30 PM
Leopard fill the same niche as the Cougar...would be killed by Wolf packs though. As lone wolves don't wonder off by themselves like Hyenas, and if the Leopard especially FEMALES didn't give their kill up fast enough, it would be attacked.


You do know that Leopards are already sympatric with wolves in many parts of their non-African range?

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