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accounts of bears killing CO or large dogs in packs; bears killing packs of dogs
Topic Started: Jan 24 2017, 11:40 PM (368 Views)
Ophiophagy
Kleptoparasite
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Any evidence of bears tigers or lions killing packs of livestock dogs?

I am breeding COA with my friend. THey are evil dogs with thick coat to protect them. They have sent a lot of big men to the hospital because they are big enough to reach for the face.

BUt a bear is starting to come near and killed his donkey. I invested money in these dogs and my stupid friend thinks 2 will take on a adult black bear or grizley lmao hes smoked wayy to much. The bear lost its fear of dogs its gonna kill all of them. My friend is too stupid to realize this. They beat up packs of coyotes on their own. BUT even my east euro shepherd has taken on 4 coyotes.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TorontoMaleHorserRiders/?multi_permalinks=461488850906356%2C460384881016753&notif_t=group_activity&notif_id=1485122846277544 can you see the pups
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jan 24 2017, 11:50 PM.
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tigerburningbright
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According to this study....In South Africa (many) more LDG guarding Dogs died of Snakebite than large Carnivore predation

Perceived Efficacy of Livestock-Guarding Dogs in South Africa: Implications for Cheetah Conservation

"ABSTRACT Large wild carnivore predation on domestic livestock and the associated financial losses may increase efforts toward lethal control of carnivore populations. Livestock-guarding dogs could provide an effective alternative to such lethal control by mitigating depredation losses. Although this information is available in North America, the cost-effectiveness of guarding dogs has not been studied in other areas experiencing large carnivore depredation such as South Africa, where the socio-economic context is very different from that of North America. We assessed the costs and benefits of 97 livestock-guarding dogs working on 94 farms in South Africa between 2005 and 2011 by reviewing data collected from questionnaires on perceived depredation losses prior to and during guarding dog placement, rates of guarding dog behavioral problems, removals, and pre-senile mortality. Perceived livestock depredation ceased in 91% of guarding dog placements, with gross mean annual financial savings US$ 3,189/farm. Estimated annual program costs per year of the livestock-guarding dog program were US$ 2,780. However, 16% of guarding dogs had reported behavioral problems, with inattentiveness cited as the most common problem. Twelve percent of guarding dogs were removed from the program because of behavioral problems. Premature death was observed in 22% of guarding dogs, most often due to snake bites. Participating farmer tolerance toward cheetahs (Acinonyx jubatus), as well as cheetah-sighting frequency, appeared to increase during participation in the livestock-guarding dog program. If further corrective behavioral and snake-aversion training were implemented, guarding dogs may offer a cost-effective method of non-lethal predator control and could potentially contribute to the long-term mitigation of human–carnivore conflict in South Africa."

http://www.jstor.org/stable/wildsocibull2011.37.4.690?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


Here is more extended info on this.....It lists most of the LGD Dogs and the outcome of their use (Death due to etc....Survived etc)

http://www.cheetah.co.za/pdf/dog_report_dec2012.pdf

As you can see the vast majority of unnatural LGD Dog deaths came from Snakebites....A few others came from intentional poisoning, being shot, being hit by cars and being killed by Crocodiles/Hyenas/Leopards....but the biggest mortality by far was from Snakebites....I didn't see anything about predation from Lions in there....but I may have missed it.
Edited by tigerburningbright, Jan 28 2017, 03:00 PM.
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Grazier
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From what I understand about farming in south Africa, which is a bit as I personally know a handful of south African farmers (current and former) and have quizzed them extensively, lion country is kind of limited, everyone knows where it is and no one grazes livestock there.

As frequently as lions appear on tv you'd think they were everywhere but they're actually rare and have a limited range of specific zones mostly in the big national parks.

On topic, it's a pretty slow dog that would get caught by a bear, or a foolhardy one. Lgds are kind of slow, not that slow, and they arent foolhardy either, the likelyhood of them falling victim to a bear is pretty low.
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