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humans... not so weak?
Topic Started: Feb 23 2017, 06:07 AM (1,806 Views)
LeopardNimr
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zergthe
Feb 24 2017, 05:44 AM
While I don't disagree, I don't totally agree either. See, that very intelligence is very handy when we know how some dogs fight.
And while we, as humans, certainly can do damage, the typical human nowadays usually cannot fathom doing too much damage to anything. At least, in my experience.
when my dad served on the army he was at is top
he is clever and know animals.
he was able to win over a german shepherd
of course he thought
that why he choosed to fight like that
to be honest
that seem superiour to many fighters.
if i was stuck on a thing like that
(once i scared off a pit bull,risky but worth the risk)
i'd act like a baboon
it worked for me and my dad

today we are fat ,stuipd ,boring,lame, with no sence at all and domestic
douche bags
some stand higher and better and some just don't...
Edited by LeopardNimr, Feb 24 2017, 05:54 AM.
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zergthe
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Making yourself appear not worth the risk is certainly a good idea, but you can't just expect to do that every time without the dog calling your bluff. My father also served in the military, and despite it being so long ago, he's still in relatively good shape. He has two big dogs that I enjoy wrestling with, and once I was actually bitten (it wasn't serious or anything; it was merely a bite the dog would normally apply to another dog). When fighting a dog, I utilize my arms to control their head. The only dog I got my behind kicked by was our friend's American Akita lol . He is absolutely massive. The funny part is he didn't even try to bite me; he simply shoved me to the ground. It was pretty funny.
Aaaaanyways, it's always good to know how an animal you see daily fights. I have no doubt your father beat a GS, as I can wrestle my dad's yellow [specifically the shade of fox red] Labrador to the ground. But humans, in my general and changeable opinion, are not exactly good fighters unless we have an "unnatural" weapon.
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Feb 24 2017, 06:05 AM
Making yourself appear not worth the risk is certainly a good idea, but you can't just expect to do that every time without the dog calling your bluff. My father also served in the military, and despite it being so long ago, he's still in relatively good shape. He has two big dogs that I enjoy wrestling with, and once I was actually bitten (it wasn't serious or anything; it was merely a bite the dog would normally apply to another dog). When fighting a dog, I utilize my arms to control their head. The only dog I got my behind kicked by was our friend's American Akita lol . He is absolutely massive. The funny part is he didn't even try to bite me; he simply shoved me to the ground. It was pretty funny.
Aaaaanyways, it's always good to know how an animal you see daily fights. I have no doubt your father beat a GS, as I can wrestle my dad's yellow [specifically the shade of fox red] Labrador to the ground. But humans, in my general and changeable opinion, are not exactly good fighters unless we have an "unnatural" weapon.
how much do you weigh?
wrestling a dog isn't impressive.
becuase they are poor at it
but it is fun ;)
the dog was set free and chased my younger brother
as a loving protecting figure i chased the dog my self holding my hands up and shouting
"i am a cat fear me" lol
it worked he tried to tackle me but i maked a sharp turn shout louder
the dog thought i was superiour
so i am sure i can hold a good fight
becuase i know the animal i know how hard to hit
yet as a child i don't favor me agianst a pit lol
Edited by LeopardNimr, Feb 24 2017, 06:15 AM.
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I am about 58-59 kilos (about 130-ish pounds). And wrestling a dog varies on impressability, depending on the size and status of the dog. It's not impressive to mess with, say, a chihuahua, but it's very impressive to wrestle with the bigger breeds and come out on top, especially as a smaller person at 15.
Just because you make yourself look like the more dominant opponent, your skills would still need to be spot-on if the dog tries to contest you. Again, making yourself look superior is vastly different than truly being superior.
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Feb 23 2017, 09:31 AM
Our bite is nothing, however our fighting ability is extremely high, connected to our intelligence. A man can potentially be very dangerous for all sorts of animals, and they have proven it with cases of people killing leopards and etc with their bare hands. Even bulls with their bare hands. There is a lot of variation in humans and many are quite pampered domesticated tame lumps of soft flesh which will be easy pickings for even animals much smaller than them, however there is another end to that spectrum.

Just logistically you can imagine a man has the potential to wrap himself up on the back of an animal and stay out of harms way while strangling it to death. Punching and kicking is great for other humans perhaps but is fairly useless against animals which don't have a big vulnerable brain and are also quicker, but wrestling/jiu jitsu is potentially very effective and IMO humans are definitely the most deadly primate on earth even bare handed.

My "fanboy" animals, dogs, are not favoured by me over humans, I think a good man can unfortunately kill any dog, so that should tell you how highly I rate them.
I agree for the most part....A large and well trained Human with the right fighting ability and mindset (and most importantly game-plan) can be a tough challenge for many large animals (predators and herbivores alike)....However there are also some predators that I have a hard time seeing Humans win against (atleast most of the time).....

Styles make fights....As you said grappling (mainly through position/body control and then strangulation) is the best/only strategy for any Human trying to kill or disable any large predator or herbivore...I cant see strikes or blunt force trauma being effective with just fists/elbows and feet alone (picking up a pipe/log/bat and swinging it repetitively is a different story)....

Big Cats just seem like a bad style match up for Humans....I can't really see a Human grappling/controlling and then choking a Leopard, Puma, or Jaguar to death without receiving massive injuries and potentially dying from blood loss...Felines are also great at fighting off their back and maneuvering out of disadvantageous situations....Its pretty rare for any animal to just pin a Feline down to the ground like that....Their incredible flexibility allows them to escape (twist/turns etc) out of even really bad fighting positions....

I think Humans fair (style wise) better against Dogs for sure...It would be easier to pin a Dog to the ground and strangle it ....or control a Dogs legs/back and strangle it from behind....without getting massively bitten/scratched up in the process...
Edited by tigerburningbright, Feb 25 2017, 09:43 AM.
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I doubt a human is going to beat a dog equal in weight to them. Clearly they've never tried restraining a Mastiff without a tool.
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To be honest, though a canine is easier to control and best, I'd rather take my chances with a cat. It'll be bloody and suck horrendously to go through definitely; but I'd rather risk death by cat then death by dog/wolf, I doubt that I'll need to explain why.
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Is it cause the canine will start eating you alive but the feline will graciously kill you first?
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i'd fight with a canine
i can survive (huge dogs will get me rekt)
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Feb 25 2017, 05:06 PM
Is it cause the canine will start eating you alive but the feline will graciously kill you first?
Oh I doubt a cat would care too much but yeah seems to be less chances of hamstringing and evisceration. Loads more lacerations but yeah.
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SKIN is what makes human vulnerable to animals, being easily cut.
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So we just need to develop armour like an Indian rhino's
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