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Leopard defeats gorilla in face to face fight!; Evidence that a leopard CAN kill a gorilla face to face
Topic Started: Dec 4 2017, 05:07 PM (2,929 Views)
k9boy
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could have been a fat female gorilla. And if the fight lasted 2 and a half hours thats more then enough time for the leopard to hang on and chew the arm off. Theres a video of one biting a huge hole in a warthogs chest while killing it.

still, as the others say these old accounts are sketchy. who knows
Edited by k9boy, Dec 7 2017, 08:19 AM.
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Grazier
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The fight didn't last 2 and a half hours. Most normal animals can fight maybe for 8 minutes. Some special fighting animals can push that up to say 15 minutes. I'm already talking only animals with exceptional endurance. Then literally 2 animals, on earth, when conditioned for it with special training camps and methods etc can fight possibly for an hour or slightly longer, that is small human beings and small gamebred apbts. That's it. A random zoo leopard and fat gorilla aren't fighting for longer than a minute. 1 minute.
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Gorilla's in the wild seem to make Leopards think twice before attacking in anything other than night time. Hard to believe the one in that account was anything other than autistic to not do anything against a leopard attacking it.
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Dec 7 2017, 02:02 PM
Gorilla's in the wild seem to make Leopards think twice before attacking in anything other than night time. Hard to believe the one in that account was anything other than autistic to not do anything against a leopard attacking it.
You have to take it with a grain of salt. Its impossible for an animal to not be able to defend itself!
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Jake Simmonds
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if the leopard was in a zoo chances are it was inexperienced at killing, which could explain why the fight lasted so long, also maybe they werent fighting for all that time. And it was a male gorilla, it says so in the report.

And a gorillas arm is not that big, its actually very long and slime compared to the rest of its body, most of its size is its stomach/torso
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Dec 5 2017, 10:38 AM
These old accounts of captive fights shouldn't be used as a representative for what would happen in a realistic scenario of a fight to the death. Lions and tigers have been recorded killing polar bears in circuses and zoos, a sloth bear killed a polar bear on one occasion, Grazier mentioned something before of a domesticated male African lion not being able to do anything against four working bulldogs, bears and lions had apparently knocked down bulls with mere pawswipes, cougars have killed bears, and a fishing cat killed a leopardess. Does that mean this would all actually happen realistically? I could go on really. I'm not trying to doubt that a leopard could indeed kill a male gorilla, but these accounts aren't trustworthy or relevant enough to count as evidence for anything.

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Excellent post! Plus a true Silverback is at least 400 lbs. & destroys a leopard face to face in the wild 90% of the time!
Black Ice
Dec 7 2017, 02:02 PM
Gorilla's in the wild seem to make Leopards think twice before attacking in anything other than night time. Hard to believe the one in that account was anything other than autistic to not do anything against a leopard attacking it.
Exactly! I remember seeing a nature show either on Discovery or NGEO a few years ago that caught a leopard & Silverback out in the clearing in Africa. The Silverback was standing & showing all its strength with his MASSIVE arms in front of him.

The leopard was sitting with its stomach on the ground. They were at a slight angle but otherwise FACE to FACE! Nothing happened because the leopard knew if he attacked that Silverback face to face he'd get DESTROYED!

Plus male Gorillas make their nests on the GROUND in the wild while the females make their nests in trees because male Gorillas have no natural enemies in the wild!
Do you guys remember about 10 years ago somebody posted a black & white photo of a Gorilla vs big cat encounter. The Gorila had the slight upper hand here because he was charging or holding off the big cat. The big cat was most likely either a cougar or mountain lion. The Gorilla was on the right & big cat on the left. It was a captivity picture.

Anyone remember this?
The link to the picture in the original post doesn't work. Anyone got a link to the pic?
Edited by Giganto, Feb 4 2018, 02:29 PM.
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Jake Simmonds
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Can you link me that show with the gorilla leopard encounter?
"The fight didn't last 2 and a half hours. Most normal animals can fight maybe for 8 minutes. Some special fighting animals can push that up to say 15 minutes. I'm already talking only animals with exceptional endurance. Then literally 2 animals, on earth, when conditioned for it with special training camps and methods etc can fight possibly for an hour or slightly longer, that is small human beings and small gamebred apbts. That's it. A random zoo leopard and fat gorilla aren't fighting for longer than a minute. 1 minute."

How can you be so sure?
Edited by Jake Simmonds, Mar 2 2018, 08:34 AM.
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It’s not hard; look at any documented violent and aggressive encounters and compare the time of actual fighting vs a standoff
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Yeah documentaries in the wild, the leopard was captive which is why the fight lasted so long, it was inexperienced at killing, and so was the gorilla, it attacked the gorillas arm which was why it toke so long to kill it.
Theres more evidence to suggest a leopard beats a gorilla than vice versa, a case were one was disembowled by ambush but still.

Another one were both were found dead, and this one were gorilla despite being twice the size got rekt, there is not any stories of a gorilla owning a leopard face to face like ape fans say, the only case ever recorded were the leopard died, the gorilla also died.
and they were probably having a stand off for most of the time as well
Edited by Jake Simmonds, Mar 3 2018, 12:03 PM.
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"The Gorila had the slight upper hand here because he was charging or holding off the big cat. The big cat was most likely either a cougar or mountain lion."
Sigh. Giganto, you do realise a Mountain Lion and a Cougar is the same thing right?
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Jake Simmonds
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theres apparently a documentry were a gorilla fights a leopard off, anyone seen it?
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Mar 3 2018, 12:12 PM
theres apparently a documentry were a gorilla fights a leopard off, anyone seen it?
Nope, got the link or a name for it?
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Jake Simmonds
Dec 4 2017, 05:07 PM
Alright guys I have found evidence to back a leopard over a gorilla.

In 1949 there was a fight between a 185lb panther and a 315lb gorilla, the gorilla got its arm torn off and barely put up a fight.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18123333

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63066994

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22766914

even has a picture of it

http://historicimages.com/1949-press-photo-the-one-eyed-black-panther-after-a-fight-with-a-gorilla

considering it was reported in newspapers which all say the same thing it seems pretty real to me.
If this is posted in the wrong forum its because I dont have "permission" to post it in the one with animal battles
This account?

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The panther had torn off the gorilla's right arm and was clawing and chewing at his victim as the ape fought flat on his 'back.

I’m really tired rn so I don’t have the biggest thinking skills right now, but I’m pretty sure this is the same account, and now I favor the leopard
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That link doesnt work, but that picture has nothing to do with it.
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Jake Simmonds
Mar 9 2018, 06:06 AM
That link doesnt work, but that picture has nothing to do with it.
Ok then, however if that’s a separate account then that’s another account of a leopard killing a gorilla
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