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Who wins?
Northwestern Wolf 4 (36.4%)
Livestock Gaurdian Donkey 7 (63.6%)
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Northwestern Wolf v Livestock Gaurdian Donkey
Topic Started: Jan 18 2018, 09:47 PM (926 Views)
Taipan
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Northwestern Wolf - Canis lupus occidentalis
The Mackenzie Valley Wolf (Canis lupus occidentalis) is perhaps the largest subspecies of Gray Wolf in North America, males averaging between 100 and 115 pounds, but weighing up to 145 pounds. The Mackenzie Valley Wolf has a specialized body that has made it one of the world's most efficient hunters. Its powerful neck is a very important adaptation: it has to be strong to support the wolf's large head and is crucial for bringing down prey. The skull is 31cm (12 inches) long and is armed with an impressive array of large canines and carnassial teeth which, when coupled with huge jaw muscles that are evident from the large sagittal crest and wide zygomatic arches, give it an incredible biteforce that is strong enough to break the bones of prey and even crack the femur of moose. The majority of the Mackenzie Valley Wolf's prey includes wood bison, muskox, moose, caribou, deer, and elk. Mackenzie valley wolves introduced into Yellowstone have taken down adult Bison, the largest wild bovid, proving their success and adaptability in a whole new environment.

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Livestock Gaurdian Donkey - Equus africanus asinus
The donkey or ass (Equus africanus asinus) is a domesticated member of the horse family, Equidae. The wild ancestor of the donkey is the African wild ass, E. africanus. The donkey has been used as a working animal for at least 5000 years. Standard sized donkeys tend to weigh 400 to 500 pounds and stand 36 to 48 inches at the withers. Although often portrayed as moody and difficult to work with, donkeys, if trained right, can be loyal and effective farm hands that are naturally inclined to not only herd but also protect sheep and goats from predators such as coyotes and roaming dogs.

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Edited by Taipan, Feb 10 2018, 11:19 PM.
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Grazier
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The odd wolf could pull it off on the odd donkey but most of the time the donkey will ofcourse prevail.
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Ryo
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Off topic question, but do you people view a Livestock Gaurdian Donkey or a Livestock Gaurdian Llama as the most impressive animal against Canids? Since Llamas by nature dislike Canids.

For this match, but have great stamina and are healthy, so I believe that they will get a hold of each other at some point where the Donkey would win due to size and hoves.
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Ryo
Jan 18 2018, 11:20 PM
Off topic question, but do you people view a Livestock Gaurdian Donkey or a Livestock Gaurdian Llama as the most impressive animal against Canids? Since Llamas by nature dislike Canids.
Donkeys also tend to dislike canids.

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Source: Carnivores of Australia: Past, Present and Future by Alistair Glen, Christopher Dickman.

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Source: Myths and Truths About Coyotes: What You Need to Know About America's Most Misunderstood Predator by Carol Cartaino.
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Lone Wolves have done some impressive feats of hunting by themselves, but a animal that fights instead of runs stands a good chance at winning. The donkey in this case is no ass, it will kick and bite nasty. I lean towards the donkey in this match up oddly enough.
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A strong wolf could take one, but donkeys are A lot force formittable than people think.
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Donkeys kick and bite nasty....a pretty dangorous combination for any predator.
https://youtu.be/CmQkmpqE_rI
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I wonder if guardian donkeys could be used alongside LGDs, or if learning to tolerate these farm dogs would just make them worthless as protectors.
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Interesting idea....idk if the donkey would assume all canids were friends or would it be able to distinguish between a LGD and a Coyote? Either way it seems Donkeys are quite effective without LGDs.
https://youtu.be/MPCfXvOMkcA
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Jan 25 2018, 02:41 PM
Interesting idea....idk if the donkey would assume all canids were friends or would it be able to distinguish between a LGD and a Coyote? Either way it seems Donkeys are quite effective without LGDs.
https://youtu.be/MPCfXvOMkcA


I suggest that might be a hoax, like the Horse killing the Cougar hoax: https://www.truthorfiction.com/mule-lion/

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Donkey Fights Off Wolf On Vancouver Island
The Huffington Post B.C.


Wolf sightings are increasing on Vancouver Island and one donkey isn't going to take their presence lying down.

"Prince" the donkey was recently attacked on a farm near Qualicum Beach, CTV News reported.

A lone wolf dug under a fence and attacked the animal, tearing its fur and flesh. Prince fought the animal off and was left covered in blood, but owner Paul Christensen is more worried about his assailant.

"I'm sure the wolf took a beating because the donkeys are like the guard dogs of the barnyard," he told the network.

The attack, which occurred two weeks ago, came as concerns heighten about the presence of wolves all over the island, the Nanaimo Daily News reported.

Vancouver Island is home to approximately 150 to 250 wolves and some of them are losing their fear of humans, Conservation Officer Stuart Bates told the newspaper.

In one instance, wolves attacked humans on Vargas Island in 2000 after it turned out that people were feeding them.

There have also been instances of tourists taking photos of the elusive animals. A pack of wolves spotted on Long Beach in Tofino last November has become a tourist attraction as visitors have photographed them on the side of a highway.

The sightings have prompted wildlife specialists to initiate a new tracking program to prevent contact between humans and animals.

Frequent human-wildlife contact can make animals less scared of people, and that often doesn't end well for the animal, said Todd Windle, a conflict specialist with Pacific Rim National Park.

"Let's use this opportunity to make sure that we all have an important role to play to keep them wild," he said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/01/29/donkey-fights-wolf-vancouver-island_n_4688923.html
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Good one.
I'd give it to the donkey most of the time. Large size and strength advantage, combative attitude and more versatile fighting style than horses.
But I have a feeling that exceptional wolf could have an advantage over exceptional donkey.
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I agree with you on that, but for the most part the donkey isn't overly huge or too bulky. It has a good balance of agilty along with bad attitude that i think would ward off most wolves.
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I think a determined Donkey should win this. I think it’s size, strength and powerful kicks should be enough to give it a victory over the Wolf.
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they also use lamas as wolf protection
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