Carnivore Carcass Draggng Strength

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Carnivore Carcass Draggng Strength
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 24 2018, 04:11 AM (2,539 Views)
k9boy	Feb 24 2018, 04:11 AM Post #1
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Post the most impressive carcass dragging/lifting videos/pictures from any carnivore skip to 3:34 for the climb, the leopard didnt get this huge impala to the top of the tree (and then hyenas stole it), but the the fact he got as high as he did with that thing impressed the hell outta me. wonder how much the impala weighed Edited by k9boy, Feb 24 2018, 10:28 AM.



CanineCanis	Feb 24 2018, 06:16 AM Post #2
Herbivore Posts: 922 Group: Members Member #4,826 Joined: Feb 20, 2018	Cougar is stronger anyways, leopards I extremely powerful animals, I love watching them at my zoo



Cat	Feb 24 2018, 07:17 AM Post #3
Omnivore Posts: 1,242 Group: Members Member #75 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	Leopard hoisting rhino calf up a tree. Feel sorry for the calf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9uPWgjjCNM



K9 Bite	Feb 24 2018, 07:21 AM Post #4
Herbivore Posts: 671 Group: Members Member #4,651 Joined: Sep 14, 2017	May I ask why you think the cougar is a stronger felid than the leopard? Just asking...I thought cats in the Panthera were the strongest alive today. The cougar is near patherine-like but it's not. Not to meation it's head is smaller in proportion to it's body. Edited by K9 Bite, Feb 24 2018, 07:21 AM.



k9boy	Feb 24 2018, 07:25 AM Post #5
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	i have always regarded leopards as far more impressive cats. maybe because they are far more aggressive and intimidating apparently cougars have more robust limbs, whatever thats worth. i would back a male leopard over a male cougar at similar weights, after a tough fight.



CanineCanis	Feb 24 2018, 08:01 AM Post #6
Herbivore Posts: 922 Group: Members Member #4,826 Joined: Feb 20, 2018	K9 Bite Feb 24 2018, 07:21 AM May I ask why you think the cougar is a stronger felid than the leopard? Just asking...I thought cats in the Panthera were the strongest alive today. The cougar is near patherine-like but it's not. Not to meation it's head is smaller in proportion to it's body. I believe there is a cougar vs leopard thread anyway The cougar has more robust limbs, both animals use those, I’ll try to dig up more evidence on the cougar vs leopard thread if you would want to talk there, I don’t believe this is the right thread to discuss this



K9 Bite	Feb 24 2018, 09:41 AM Post #7
Herbivore Posts: 671 Group: Members Member #4,651 Joined: Sep 14, 2017	Agreed, I'll take a look at that thread later.



Mauro20	Feb 24 2018, 09:59 AM Post #8
Badass Posts: 4,640 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Jan 17, 2012	k9boy Feb 24 2018, 04:11 AM leopards are extremely powerful animals, IMO the strongest carnivore in their size range. I think jaguars (which are bigger than leopards on average, but their sizes overlap) are clearly stronger. Not only they have a heavier build, they can drag large prey over long distances and very rough terrain. Quote: Like other large cats, jaguars usually drag large kills into dense cover before beginning to eat. There are records of large kills being moved a mile or more over very rough terrain, representing feats of strength that rival those of the tiger. Edgardo Mondolfi recorded an example from Venezuela in which a female jaguar weighing 41 kilograms dragged the 180-kilogram carcass of a Brahman heifer about 200 meters over a steep and rocky ravine in dense forest. At another site in Venezuela a jaguar reportedly killed a cow on the edge of the Apure River, dragged the carcass into the strong current, and swam 800 meters across the river carrying the cow. Source: Wild Cats of the World. Edited by Mauro20, Feb 24 2018, 10:01 AM.



k9boy	Feb 24 2018, 10:04 AM Post #9
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Mauro20 Feb 24 2018, 09:59 AM k9boy Feb 24 2018, 04:11 AM leopards are extremely powerful animals, IMO the strongest carnivore in their size range. I think jaguars (which are bigger than leopards on average, but their sizes overlap) are clearly stronger. Not only they have a heavier build, they can drag large prey over long distances and very rough terrain. Quote: Like other large cats, jaguars usually drag large kills into dense cover before beginning to eat. There are records of large kills being moved a mile or more over very rough terrain, representing feats of strength that rival those of the tiger. Edgardo Mondolfi recorded an example from Venezuela in which a female jaguar weighing 41 kilograms dragged the 180-kilogram carcass of a Brahman heifer about 200 meters over a steep and rocky ravine in dense forest. At another site in Venezuela a jaguar reportedly killed a cow on the edge of the Apure River, dragged the carcass into the strong current, and swam 800 meters across the river carrying the cow. Source: Wild Cats of the World. i was thinking animals more in the leopards average size range, you'd have to get a pretty small female jag for them to overlap. But yes i'd agree, a jaguar is more powerful then any leopard. Infact lb for lb I can't think of a cat that impresses me more then a jag. that account about the 41kg jaguar is insane. Jaguar drags 250kg cow Edited by k9boy, Feb 24 2018, 10:10 AM.



Mauro20	Feb 24 2018, 10:14 AM Post #10
Badass Posts: 4,640 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Jan 17, 2012	There is a lot of variation, a male Persian leopard can get a lot bigger than the 41 kg female jaguar which dragged that heifer around. But yes, I'd say a leopard would be stronger than a similar-sized cougar.



k9boy	Feb 24 2018, 10:26 AM Post #11
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	surely 41kg is far below the norm. still thats an unbelievable feat of strength, I doubt any other animal of the same weight could do that. Even smaller female jags are often brawnier then male leopards. although I think a leopard is stronger then a cougar, cougars are still easily capable of taking large prey up trees. But they never seem to do so. The closest thing I could find to such an instance is this Edited by k9boy, Feb 24 2018, 10:30 AM.



Mauro20	Feb 24 2018, 10:31 AM Post #12
Badass Posts: 4,640 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Jan 17, 2012	Jaguars also don't take large prey up trees, I think. At least I've never heard of them doing it. Maybe because they don't have to deal with the likes of hyenas, African wild dogs and lions? It's a bit weird that cougars don't do that very often, though. Sounds like it would be very useful to them, since wolves and brown bears may steal their kills.



k9boy	Feb 24 2018, 10:41 AM Post #13
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Mauro20	Feb 24 2018, 11:01 AM Post #14
Badass Posts: 4,640 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Jan 17, 2012	Since this thread isn't just about leopards anymore, I'll post more jaguar stuff: Quote: It is a thirsty brute, and if it kills far from water will often drag its victim a long distance toward a pond or stream; Colonel Rondon had once come across a horse which a jaguar had thus killed and dragged for over a mile. Source: Through the Brazilian Wilderness by Theodore Roosevelt. This one I find really hard to believe, but it would be the most impressive feat of strength from a jaguar (or any big cat, really) I've ever heard. Quote: He attacks horses, deer, and tapirs; he has been known to swim across a wide river, to kill a horse, drag it sixty yards to the water-side, then swim across the river with his prey, drag it out of the water, and finally carry it off into a neighboring wood. The natives assert that he has been known to kill one of two horses that were fastened together, and drag off with the dead one the living horse also, in spite of all its struggles. Source: The animal kingdom; based upon the writings of the eminent naturalists, Audubon, Wallace, Brehm, Wood and others.



k9boy	Feb 24 2018, 11:16 AM Post #15
Apex Predator Posts: 4,236 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	I thought I might as well include other cats and carnivores, as carcass dragging has always been an interesting subject for me as to me it is a great way to gauge an animals physical strength. Dead weight is truly harder to pull then anything on wheels. Especially after spending considerable energy bringing down and killing whatever it is they are dragging. The 2nd account you posted does seem sketchy. But who knows, stranger things have happened. The below video is an insane display of neck strength. Holding an alive and thrashing caiman like a toy.



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