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Animal Tier list - Large Land Animals
Topic Started: Mar 8 2018, 07:56 AM (500 Views)
Wild Spirit
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Hi guys,

Just wanted to check if there would be any interest in creating a tier list for animals in terms of fighting ability. The point of the list is to have fun discussions and it would also give an idea of the general opinion of the community on here regarding where they see certain animals on the totem pole.

I had a few categories in mind in terms of how to separate the animals as it wouldn’t make sense to have a butterfly in the same tier list as an Orca. So here they are:

1. Large land animals : 40-45kg+++
2. Small land animals: << 40-45kg
3. Marine animals
4. Bugs and Critters
5. Dinosaurs
6. Prehistoric Mammals/Cenozoic Animals

I was thinking that we can start with large land animals as that would probably be the easiest to make. We as a community can discuss it among ourselves and then reach some sort of consensus.

Any ideas and suggestions are welcome.

Edit:-

Ok this is the tier list we have so far for large land animals. Please vote below if you want a certain animal to be added to the list or if want to move some animal up or down the list:

S+

African Elephant
Asian Elephant

S

White Rhino
Indian Rhino
Hippo

S-

Gaur
Polar Bear
Kodiak Bear
American Bison
Cape Buffalo
Northern Elephant Seal
Southern Elephant Seal
Walrus
Saltwater Crocodile


A+

Tiger
Lion
Nile Crocodile

A

Jaguar
Eastern Gorilla
Zebra

A-

Leopard
Cougar
Spotted Hyena

B+

Grey Wolf

B

Cheetah

B-

Thomson's Gazelle
Impala
Edited by Wild Spirit, Mar 11 2018, 07:36 AM.
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I like this idea a lot, but I have a question: are animals ranked in terms of absolute or relative fighting ability?
As an example before I joined the forum one of my favourite pastimes was to go through a particular animal's fights and work out a percentage of their wins (and I could post that list as well if anyone was interested). The jaguar so far has the highest percentage (around 80), so in this tier list would it automatically go beneath everything that would beat in a fight (bears, rhinos, larger cats), or would it be around S tier given its relative ability to fight for its size?
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Mar 8 2018, 08:26 AM
I like this idea a lot, but I have a question: are animals ranked in terms of absolute or relative fighting ability?
As an example before I joined the forum one of my favourite pastimes was to go through a particular animal's fights and work out a percentage of their wins (and I could post that list as well if anyone was interested). The jaguar so far has the highest percentage (around 80), so in this tier list would it automatically go beneath everything that would beat in a fight (bears, rhinos, larger cats), or would it be around S tier given its relative ability to fight for its size?
Absolute fighting ability. So yes, a jaguar would rank below larger animals like Rhinos or Bears. I think for a start, it will be easier to create a list if we do it in absolute terms.
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I take it large canids lile Wolves amd LGDs take a solid spot on B or C tier?
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Mar 8 2018, 12:10 PM
I take it large canids lile Wolves amd LGDs take a solid spot on B or C tier?
Most probably. I have the following rough Skeleton in my mind:

S+
Elephant

S
White Rhino

S-
Polar Bear

A+
Tiger

A
Gorilla
Zebra

A-
Leopard
Spotted Hyena

B+
Grey wolf
Komodo Dragons

B
Cheetah

B-
Impala


Might need to reform the above as I’m still not sure about the B- to A- Range. Could go a bit more granular overall, top to bottom.
Edited by Wild Spirit, Mar 8 2018, 06:16 PM.
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How is a Zebra a higher rank than a Spotted Hyena? Just asking your thoughts on that placement haha. I might add most birds of prey can sit comfortably in either -A or B+ teir.
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Mar 8 2018, 06:13 PM
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Mar 8 2018, 12:10 PM
I take it large canids lile Wolves amd LGDs take a solid spot on B or C tier?
Most probably. I have the following rough Skeleton in my mind:

S+
Elephant

S
White Rhino

S-
Polar Bear

A+
Tiger

A
Gorilla
Zebra

A-
Leopard
Spotted Hyena

B+
Grey wolf
Komodo Dragons

B
Cheetah

B-
Impala


Might need to reform the above as I’m still not sure about the B- to A- Range. Could go a bit more granular overall, top to bottom.
I’d put wolf in A- as well

I came i with my own little tier list for land predators (no S tier btw only A+ and under)

A+
Polar Bear
Kodiak Bear

A
Tiger
Lion
Grizzly

A-
Jaguar


B+
Cougar
Leopard
Gray wolf
Hyena

B
Komodo Dragon
Snow leopard

B-
Cheetah

C+ AWD
Eastern Coyote
Clouded Leopard
Eurasian Lynx
Wolverine

C
European Badger
Caracal
Dingo
Serval
Bobcat
Ocelot
Jackal
Honey Badger
Fossa

C-
Red Fox
Fisher
Tasmanian Devil

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I agree to that list^
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Mar 9 2018, 01:19 AM
How is a Zebra a higher rank than a Spotted Hyena? Just asking your thoughts on that placement haha. I might add most birds of prey can sit comfortably in either -A or B+ teir.
One on one I think a big stallion zebra would beat a big female hyena, but I suppose that personal opinion. On the tier list for larger animals like this I don't think birds of prey have a very high chance, but on the tier list of smaller animals they'd have a strong argument for S tier. (I take it we're all big fans of Tierzoo?)

Here's a rough list I made up the other day looking at this topic, I'm including the highest and lowest in every tier plus a few favourites. I split them on the basis of how well the animal at the bottom of the tier would fair against the animal at the top, if it even had a slight chance then they're included but if not they were moved down a tier, so keep in mind in any tier there's huge overlap. Probably some controversial opinions ahead haha

S+
African Bush Elephant
Asiatic Elephant

S
African Forest Elephant
White Rhinoceros
Hippopotamus

S-
Black Rhinoceros
Cape Buffalo
Walrus

A+
Nile Crocodile
Brown Bear
Lion

A
Muskox
Eastern Gorilla
Jaguar

A-
Malayan Tapir
Sloth Bear
Western Gorilla

B+
Komodo Dragon
Wild Boar
Leopard
Reticulated Python

B
Giant Panda
Warthog
Spotted Hyena

B-
Snow Leopard
Wildebeest
Southern Cassowary

C+
Grey Wolf (incoming comments in 3, 2...)
Bornean Orangutan
Chimpanzee

C
Cheetah
Red Kangaroo
Ostrich

C-
Fallow Deer
Thomson's Gazelle




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TeirZoo has definte influence here, yes lol.
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Mar 9 2018, 01:19 AM
How is a Zebra a higher rank than a Spotted Hyena? Just asking your thoughts on that placement haha. I might add most birds of prey can sit comfortably in either -A or B+ teir.
I agree with Scottish cat above. In one on one head on clash, I think a large prime Zebra would be too big for a female hyena generally speaking.

Tell you what, I've edited the op and put a general tier list up vaguely based on what replies we already have. And we can start a sort of voting to decide which animal goes where.

We can start with the Grey wolf as there seems to be a disagreement on where it should be placed. So here it is

Grey wolf for A-:

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Grey wolf for B+:

Wild spirit(I might change my mind later but for now I'm going with this)
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I know SWC has the grey wolf much lower on his list but his list structure is different to what I have at the moment which is S,A and B class. I might change it as we add more animals or as more people suggest we need another class.
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Mar 11 2018, 06:35 AM
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Mar 9 2018, 01:19 AM
How is a Zebra a higher rank than a Spotted Hyena? Just asking your thoughts on that placement haha. I might add most birds of prey can sit comfortably in either -A or B+ teir.
One on one I think a big stallion zebra would beat a big female hyena, but I suppose that personal opinion. On the tier list for larger animals like this I don't think birds of prey have a very high chance, but on the tier list of smaller animals they'd have a strong argument for S tier. (I take it we're all big fans of Tierzoo?)

Here's a rough list I made up the other day looking at this topic, I'm including the highest and lowest in every tier plus a few favourites. I split them on the basis of how well the animal at the bottom of the tier would fair against the animal at the top, if it even had a slight chance then they're included but if not they were moved down a tier, so keep in mind in any tier there's huge overlap. Probably some controversial opinions ahead haha

S+
African Bush Elephant
Asiatic Elephant

S
African Forest Elephant
White Rhinoceros
Hippopotamus

S-
Black Rhinoceros
Cape Buffalo
Walrus

A+
Nile Crocodile
Brown Bear
Lion

A
Muskox
Eastern Gorilla
Jaguar

A-
Malayan Tapir
Sloth Bear
Western Gorilla

B+
Komodo Dragon
Wild Boar
Leopard
Reticulated Python

B
Giant Panda
Warthog
Spotted Hyena

B-
Snow Leopard
Wildebeest
Southern Cassowary

C+
Grey Wolf (incoming comments in 3, 2...)
Bornean Orangutan
Chimpanzee

C
Cheetah
Red Kangaroo
Ostrich

C-
Fallow Deer
Thomson's Gazelle




I think you’re underrating the wolf by way to much, two levels below hyena and below snow leopard? Personally I favor a wolf at parity over both

Also you think a gray wolf couldn’t kill a wildebeest?

I just don’t understand why you have the wolf so low
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Tbh the wolf has a strong argument for B- tier, although I definitely don't favour it over either the hyena or the leopard. And yeah as far as face to face goes, I would solidly back the wildebeest. A wolf could certainly bring one down, and I'm not saying it would have absolutely no chance (probably around 60/40), but a predator/prey fight does not necessarily mean a hunting scenario
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