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Hyenas vs. Domestic Dogs; Compendium
Topic Started: Jan 10 2012, 05:40 AM (1,095 Views)
ImperialDino
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Pitbull/Kangal hybrid didn't kill the Striped Hyena, but it's VERY capable of doing so
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ImperialDino
May 22 2012, 09:19 PM
Pitbull/Kangal hybrid didn't kill the Striped Hyena, but it's VERY capable of doing so
Indeed.

Also. Striped hyenas average 35kg, and females may be down at the 25kg, so it may very well be an adult. And I guess a kangal cross apbt would be around 40-50kg, so it's definently a big dog too. Teeth also looks full grown. Still, nothing any of us can use in a discussion, and no details, sad to see the rare striped hyenas being killed that way.


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Everything else is just a dog.
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That dog could be 1/4 apbt and be similar in size to a pure kangal.
There are many dogs that would beat a striped hyena IMO (doubt any could at parity)
It does seem to be a baiting incident though which is a shame.
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May 22 2012, 06:30 AM
This photo does nothing for any argument.
I second that
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pars
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May 22 2012, 06:19 AM
pars
May 22 2012, 06:17 AM
In the forum, the man who puts the photo says that the hyeana was killed by several dogs of the village in Mardin and the photo was taken by the villagers. That's all...

The indiviudal seems to be a sub adult. An adult stripped hyeana is bigger. The animal should have come to the village to find a food...

Any dog bred can not kill an adult alone...

In a news a few months ago, a shepherd from southwestern Turkey had said that his sheeps and his shepherd dog (most probably a kangal) was killed by a stripped hyeana...
Do you have that news account?
I have watched it on TV. The shepherd could not define the animal attaking his sheeps and shepherd. he said that it was not like a wolf, its pelt is browny and reddish. He estimates its weight as 60 kg, height around 80 cm. Everyone is suspecting from striped hyeana. we have eurolynx there but a eurolynx can not kill a shepherd and can not be as big as the shepherd defined. Indeed this region was one of the best historical habitats of leopard. the last seighting reports of leopard there were in 1980s.



http://yurthaber.mynet.com/detay/aydin-haberleri/sokede-canavar-panigi/99482

http://www.olayweb.com/aydinin-soke-ilcesinde-gizemli-hayvan-yirtici-hayvanlari-bu-hale-getiriyor/

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pars
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May 22 2012, 09:07 PM
pars
May 22 2012, 06:17 AM
Any dog bred can not kill an adult alone...

Why?
I do not have enough info on hyeanas, but local people who knows hyeana well told me that a dog can not kill an adult hyeana since this is more gresive while defending itself and its teeth and jaws are stronger than any dog, even kangal...those were shepherds from southeast having experience with hyeana attacks. But they were not scientists of course...
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pars
May 24 2012, 04:44 AM
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May 22 2012, 09:07 PM
pars
May 22 2012, 06:17 AM
Any dog bred can not kill an adult alone...

Why?
I do not have enough info on hyeanas, but local people who knows hyeana well told me that a dog can not kill an adult hyeana since this is more gresive while defending itself and its teeth and jaws are stronger than any dog, even kangal...those were shepherds from southeast having experience with hyeana attacks. But they were not scientists of course...
Pars, are you Turkish?
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Theres a video on youtube of a striped hyena being beaten by a smaller dog, it was a pit fight in the 1950's, terrible stuff.
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Wow....Impressive
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pars
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May 24 2012, 04:56 AM
pars
May 24 2012, 04:44 AM
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May 22 2012, 09:07 PM
pars
May 22 2012, 06:17 AM
Any dog bred can not kill an adult alone...

Why?
I do not have enough info on hyeanas, but local people who knows hyeana well told me that a dog can not kill an adult hyeana since this is more gresive while defending itself and its teeth and jaws are stronger than any dog, even kangal...those were shepherds from southeast having experience with hyeana attacks. But they were not scientists of course...
Pars, are you Turkish?
Yes...
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pars
May 25 2012, 04:03 AM
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May 24 2012, 04:56 AM
pars
May 24 2012, 04:44 AM
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May 22 2012, 09:07 PM
pars
May 22 2012, 06:17 AM
Any dog bred can not kill an adult alone...

Why?
I do not have enough info on hyeanas, but local people who knows hyeana well told me that a dog can not kill an adult hyeana since this is more gresive while defending itself and its teeth and jaws are stronger than any dog, even kangal...those were shepherds from southeast having experience with hyeana attacks. But they were not scientists of course...
Pars, are you Turkish?
Yes...
I asked because you seem knowledgable of the events.
Have you ever had much experience of the wildlife?
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That is not a spotted hyena, because if it were, the outcome would've likely been opposite.
Edited by Enigma, May 26 2012, 12:19 AM.
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pars
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May 26 2012, 12:00 AM
pars
May 25 2012, 04:03 AM
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May 24 2012, 04:56 AM
pars
May 24 2012, 04:44 AM
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May 22 2012, 09:07 PM
pars
May 22 2012, 06:17 AM
Any dog bred can not kill an adult alone...

Why?
I do not have enough info on hyeanas, but local people who knows hyeana well told me that a dog can not kill an adult hyeana since this is more gresive while defending itself and its teeth and jaws are stronger than any dog, even kangal...those were shepherds from southeast having experience with hyeana attacks. But they were not scientists of course...
Pars, are you Turkish?
Yes...
I asked because you seem knowledgable of the events.
Have you ever had much experience of the wildlife?
I am interested in wild life since my childhood and everytime when I go to countryside in Turkey, i m talking to local people about the wild animals Especially shepherds, hunters and foresters and local officials of the ministry for environment and forestry have interesting experience on wild animals.

I have friends regularly going countryside for trecking or camping too. Striped hyeanas are considered as pests by some local people. We do not have enough info on their locations, habits and numbers in Turkey. They mostly live in southern part of the country and some parts of the eastern Anatolia. Historically they were living everywhere in Anatolia, but unfortunately now they are only in southern part and endangered. Poaching is forbidden.

In some parts of Turkey striped hyeanas are known to eat the human corpses after digging the graves. I don't know if it is true or not but this badly effects their image.

This forum in internet is a platform for wild life lovers to share the photos of mammals that they took.

http://www.tramem.org/memeliler/?fsx=2fsdl4@d&detay=84&fslx=1

To sum up,

In this forum there are interesting accounts and sighting reports about striped hyeana. Even in forested Western and Northwestern parts of the country, we have sighting reports. One member of the forum who is a wildlife fotographer saw a hyeana and 4 feral dogs around him. He said that hyeana was reactionless towards dogs though they were barking and provoking him. After a small aggresive reaction all dogs have dissappeared.

There are accounts of local people arguing that hyeanas are eating melons and water melons and attacking and eating their dogs. Local people say that dogs are afraid of hyeanas they have such a big fear that even they hear hyena's voice they are fainting because of fear. These are exageratioons but there are records of dogs killed and eaten by striped hyeana. Even shepherd dogs...I don't know their breed...

By the way I am not fan of canids nor hyeanas, I am just interested with wildlife and carnivores and I do not mind if a hyeana kill and eat a dog or vice versa. I just want to share information.














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pars
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http://haber.mynet.com/bilecikte-buyuk-panik-545235-yasam/

Another news about dog eating hyeanas...From northwestern Turkey. peasents claim that a carnivore that they have never seen before is attacking and eating their dogs. these animals ate 18 dogs within a few months. 5 of them were huntiing dogs the others shpeherd dog. In this part of the country shepherd dogs are mostly akbash or its variations. This is a big LGD. Local officers think that the carnivore is stripped hyeana.

The problem is that the peasents define the carnivore as spotted animal with forelegs higher than hindlegs. And they say thet the animal has a strong preference for shepherd dogs, instead of killin sheeps it is attacking an eating dogs. And it is not eating the bones...

It can be a hyeana but I am suspecting of leopard, though its forelegs is not higher than hindlegs...
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i think the hyena was been killed from other animals or bye many dogs but not by only one bitbull
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