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| New Guinea Singing Dog v Papuan Harpy Eagle | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 25 2018, 12:10 PM (404 Views) | |
| Taipan | Mar 25 2018, 12:10 PM Post #1 |
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New Guinea Singing Dog - Canis lupus dingo var. The New Guinea Singing Dog (also known as the New Guinea Dingo, Hallstrom Dog and Singer) is a wild dog once found throughout New Guinea. New Guinea Singing Dogs are named for their unique howl. Little is known about New Guinea Singing Dogs in their native habitat. Photographs of wild Singing Dogs are non-existent. Current genetic research indicates that the ancestors of New Guinea Dingoes were probably taken overland through present day China to New Guinea by travelers during pre-Neolithic times. Compared to other species in its genus, the New Guinea Singing Dog is described as relatively short-legged and broad-headed. These dogs have an average shoulder height of 31–46 cm (13–16 in.) and weigh 9–14 kilograms (20–31 lb). They do not have rear dewclaws. The limbs and spine of Singers are very flexible, and they can spread their legs sideways to 90°, comparable to the Norwegian Lundehund. They can also rotate their front and hind paws more than domestic dogs, which enables them to climb trees with thick bark or branches that can be reached from the ground; however their climbing skills do not reach the same level as those of the gray fox. Reports from local sources in Papua New Guinea from the 1970s and the mid-1990s indicate that Singer-like wild dogs found in New Guinea, whether they were pure Singers or hybrids, fed on small to middle-sized marsupials, rodents, birds and fruits. Robert Bino stated that they their prey consisted of cuscuses, wallabies, dwarf cassowaries and other birds. Papuan Harpy Eagle - Harpyopsis novaeguineae The Papuan eagle (Harpyopsis novaeguineae) also known as the Papuan harpy eagle, New Guinea eagle, or Kapul eagle, is a large (length 75–90 cm, wingspan 157 cm, weight 1600–2400 g) greyish brown raptor with a short full crest, broad three-banded wings, powerful beak, large iris, long rounded tail and white underparts. It has long and powerful unfeathered legs with sharp claws. The sexes are similar, and the female is slightly larger than the male. It is the only member of the genus Harpyopsis. The Papuan eagle is endemic to undisturbed tropical rainforests of New Guinea, where it became the top predator of the island after the extinction of local giant monitor lizards and possibly Thylacoleo. The diet consists mainly of phalangers or Kapul in a local language, hence its alternative name. It also feeds on other mammals, birds and snakes. ![]()
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| Cat | Mar 25 2018, 06:37 PM Post #2 |
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According to Wikipedia the NGSD steal the eagle's kills, but the eagle has been known to kill adult dogs. When I read their cited source however, I cannot find any mention of eagles killing NGSDs. http://www.newguinea-singing-dog-conservation.org/tidbits/ausmampap.pdf |
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| Lightning | Mar 25 2018, 10:00 PM Post #3 |
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The dog wins with its great size advantage. |
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| Cat | Mar 25 2018, 11:04 PM Post #4 |
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Yes, I voted for the dog too. However the eagle should be able to take an adult female dog by surprise attack IMO. A surprise aerial attack gives a raptor a huge advantage, compensating for smaller size. And if this harpy eagle is similar to her bigger S. American cousin, she must have impressive talons. PS: I would like to know the source on which Wikipedia bases its statement that Papuan Eagles have killed adult NGSDs. It's not in the article cited. And I couldn't find this info anywhere on Google. Is it possible that a raptor fan has added an invented piece of info on Wikipedia? I generally consider Wikipedia quite reliable in providing factual info. |
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| Lightning | Mar 25 2018, 11:31 PM Post #5 |
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Yes, if the eagle ambushed a female dog, then the eagle could win but, if both are aware of the presence of the other, then the dog wins. I'm not sure about the source of Papuan eagles killing adult NGSDs. |
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| Sparx | Mar 26 2018, 03:32 AM Post #6 |
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If by ambush, the eagle can win. If both of them are aware of each other, the dog wins.. |
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| Wallacetic | Mar 26 2018, 11:19 PM Post #7 |
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![]() The New Guinea Eagle is inferior as compared to its closest relative the S.American Harpy Eagle in size and weight esp. the long thin legs and small talons.. I think the dog would win most of the time 80/20 Edited by Wallacetic, Mar 27 2018, 07:59 AM.
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