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Dingo v Red Kangaroo
Topic Started: Mar 30 2018, 01:21 PM (1,802 Views)
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Dingo - Canis l. dingo
The Australian Dingo is a free-roaming wild dog unique to the continent of Australia, mainly found in the outback. Its original ancestors are thought to have arrived with humans from southeast Asia thousands of years ago, when dogs were still relatively undomesticated and closer to their wild Asian gray wolf parent species, Canis lupus. Since then, living largely apart from people and other dogs, together with the demands of Australian ecology, has caused them to develop features and instincts that distinguish them from all other canines. Dingoes have maintained ancient characteristics that unite them, along with other primitive dogs, into a taxon named after them, Canis lupus dingo, and has separated them from the domestic dog, Canis lupus familiaris. Dingoes have a relatively broad head, a pointed muzzle, and erect ears. Eye colour varies from yellow over orange to brown. Compared to other similarly sized familiaris dogs, dingoes have longer muzzles, larger carnassials, longer canine teeth, and a flatter skull with larger nuchal lines. The average Australian Dingo is 52 to 60 cm (20 to 24 in) tall at the shoulders and measures 117 to 154 cm (46 to 61 in) from nose to tail tip. The average weight is 13 to 20 kg (29 to 44 lb), however there are a few records of outsized dingoes weighing up to 27 to 35 kg (60 to 77 lb). Males are typically larger and heavier than females of the same age. Dingoes from the North and the North-West of Australia are larger than Central and South-Australian populations. Australian dingoes are invariably heavier than Asian ones. The legs are about half the length of the body and the head put together. The hind feet make up a third of the hind legs and have no dewclaws. Dingoes can have sabre-form tails (typically carried erect with a curve towards the back) or tails which are carried directly on the back.

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Red Kangaroo - Macropus rufus
The red kangaroo (Macropus rufus) is the largest of all kangaroos, the largest mammal native to Australia, and the largest surviving marsupial. It is found across mainland Australia, avoiding only the more fertile areas in the south, the east coast, and the northern rainforests. Red Kangaroos have a white facial stripe from the corner of the mouth towards the ear. The amount of hairless rhinarium (skin on the tip of the nose) is dusky coloured and intermediate between the narrow band of Grey Kangaroos and the broad one of Euros. Males continue to grow through life and may reach 90 kg in weight. A 92 kg male was caught at Stubberfields Tank in Sturt National Park and this remains the largest individual in the many studies on this species. Males are typically red coloured (lighter in summer and dark rusty red in winter). Females may grow to 40 kg but usually range around 25-30 kg. They are typically blue-grey. However, the colouration of the two sexes grades into each other with small percentage of grey males and red females and some intermediate shades. To confirm the sex of an individual you need to view the abdomen where the pouch opening of females or the scrotum of males is usually obvious.

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Hash Slinging Slasher
Mar 29 2018, 05:59 AM
People, this section is not for debate. Go to the kangaroo vs dingo thread (if there isn't one, then request it or make it yourself in the fantasy and fiction face off section).

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I'm anxious to hear as well, much of what Grazier says whether intentional or not is just comedy.
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Ryo
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It is odd, because some of the older dog people here used to make it clear that actual working Staffies were more like Pitbulls in terms of longer legs and agility (and larger size) instead of these dressers on legs. Their skull is also more impressive than most of the Pitbull skulls I can find, except for being slightly smaller in size.
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Grazier
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Most today are bloated and muscle bound but soft pets with poor heat tolerance and stamina. When I say wimp I don't mean compared to wimpy wild animals like cougars but compared to other bull breeds. Pitbulls and ebts seem harder on average in my experience.
Edited by Grazier, Apr 1 2018, 10:38 AM.
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What you must remember, Ryo, is that Grazier lives in some fantasy world where having tiny teeth is actually an advantage for these kinds of dogs. While a normal person would say the skull of a SBT...

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...is more impressive than a similar-sized skull of, for example, a pitbull would be...

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...Grazier would argue the staffy would have easily breakable teeth or some such nonsense, while never backing anything up, of course.

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Crazed bull terrier is shot dead after savaging 5 officers
A MARKSMAN had to blast a Staffordshire bull terrier four times before killing it yesterday – after the dog went berserk and savaged five policemen.

The officers “screamed in pain” as the animal repeatedly bit them as they tried to flee.

Witnesses told how the dog was “literally hanging off” one of the victims after sinking its teeth into his leg.

Police leapt over walls or jumped on to parked cars as the dog went wild in a residential street only yards from a primary school.

A dozen reinforcements in riot gear arrived and managed to pin down the animal with heavy duty plastic shields.

Witnesses said it was still snarling after being hit repeatedly with police batons.

It died only after having been shot up to four times – and “was still shaking” after the final shot, according to one witness. Blood, from both the dog and the officers, spattered the pavement in Albert Square, Stratford, east London.

Three of the four officers who needed treatment for serious bite wounds were to be kept in hospital last night. Some will need skin grafts. The fifth escaped with minor injuries.

The incident began around 9.30am yesterday when officers went to arrest a 25-year-old on suspicion of GBH and kidnap.

It is believed the dog launched itself at police after the suspect was handcuffed.

Student Gemma Smith, 27, said: “I woke up to screaming and I thought someone had been stabbed.

“I went outside and the dog was attacking a police officer, it was literally hanging off his leg – the man was running around trying to shake it off.

“Officers were climbing on walls to try to get away from the dog. One got on to the bonnet of a car and was lying on it and another was standing on a car trying to kick it off.

“The one on the bonnet was injured and he stayed there till the paramedics arrived. The officers screamed in pain.”

Neighbour Dennis Clarke, 71, said: “I heard someone yelling: ‘Help! Help!’

“I came out of my front door and I could see the dog had the police officer’s leg – and it wouldn’t let go.

“He tried to get away by going over a wall next door but he fell and the dog got him.”

Mr Clarke said up to a dozen police battled to get the dog under control, adding: “Blood was pouring from one officer’s hand – they were very brave.”

A woman who lives at the suspect’s house said the dog was a “family pet”.

The suspect was arrested last night for alleged offences in connection to the dog.
Source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/309863/Crazed-bull-terrier-is-shot-dead-after-savaging-5-officers

Wow... What a wimp. What animal of that size wouldn't require a dozen policemen in riot gear to subdue?
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The reality is pitbulls and sbts are very closely related, only one has been a pet bred to look stocky and cool and one has been bred to fight to the death over the last 100 years or so. Do you seriously think sbts are superior to apbts?

Like I said, sbts aren't wimps, just by the incredibly high bar we should put on bull breeds they are relatively lame. But sure, yes they are definitely far tougher than whatever your favourite animal is.
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Funny you would say that, Grazier. Usually when someone brings up most dogs from whatever breed you're trying to support are just pets bred for no useful purpose whatsoever, you're the first to whine we should just use working animals. Yet here you're trying to bring up pet SBTs bred for shows.

Working SBTs are not bred to look cool, obviously. In fact, they look almost exactly like the average working pitbulls:

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Source: http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/sections/articles/working_terriers/hunting-fox-with-staffords.html

Also, stop trying to take back the things you say everytime someone makes them sound stupid, that's just swear wording pathetic. You did say SBTs are wimps. Stick with it.
Edited by Mauro20, Apr 1 2018, 11:08 AM.
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Well the bigger point is taipan is a wimp and has a problem with tough dogs not "staying in their place" and it says a lot about his psychology. I'm just saying I don't love sbts because most are pets. I don't love any pure breed for this reason.
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I suspect Taipan dislikes SBTs because of the support they got in some threads against animals he really likes. At least, this sounds just like him..
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Mauro20
Apr 1 2018, 12:13 PM
I suspect Taipan dislikes SBTs because of the support they got in some threads against animals he really likes. At least, this sounds just like him..
I suspect that as well, but sbts are almost as compact and sturdy as Bush Dogs which most forum members find impressive. I really don't see how they are whimps with a low center of gravity, huge head in proportion to their body and thick but short neck which would make it kind of hard for other carnivores to aim for in a fight imo. Their teeth are small but I personally they are far from "whimps".
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Mar 31 2018, 01:35 AM
Has a roo killed a dingo before? They're obviously capable, but would the dingo be as dumb as that boar dog to just charge into a Roo's headlock, I think not. These accounts definitely show the roo is capable, but does it mean a victory over a cunning dingo? That has yet to be proven, imo.
Don't call a boer dog dumb around Grazier lol
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Apr 1 2018, 12:08 AM
You're not a big fan of bully type dogs are you Taipan? Lol


Not running around unrestrained in the environment - infact that goes for any dog.

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Apr 1 2018, 01:18 PM
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Apr 1 2018, 12:08 AM
You're not a big fan of bully type dogs are you Taipan? Lol


Not running around unrestrained in the environment - infact that goes for any dog.

That explains why you seemed pretty offended when I talked about my dogs that run completely unrestrained in the environment lol

Literally all day this is what my dogs do. And they're badasses fot it.
Edited by WaffleKing, Apr 1 2018, 01:23 PM.
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Grazier
Apr 1 2018, 12:38 AM
Taipan would hate them because he's a wimp while I hate them because they are wimps, if that makes sense (rhetorical question, it does).


I never said I hated them you incompetent twat. Learn to read.

Mauro20
Apr 1 2018, 12:13 PM
I suspect Taipan dislikes SBTs because of the support they got in some threads against animals he really likes. At least, this sounds just like him..


Thanks but I never said I dislike them, simply they are a failed breed that has a penchant for mindlessly attacking other animals. In Australia, where we have rightfully banned APBTs, SBTs tend to fill their role - killing family pets, etc. They dont tend to kill people like APBTs however. They (SBTs) fill our dog shelters too - they are cool for mindless morons till they start killing and attacking other things, and then they get dumped.

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Apr 1 2018, 01:27 PM
Grazier
Apr 1 2018, 12:38 AM
Taipan would hate them because he's a wimp while I hate them because they are wimps, if that makes sense (rhetorical question, it does).


I never said I hated them you incompetent twat. Learn to read.

Mauro20
Apr 1 2018, 12:13 PM
I suspect Taipan dislikes SBTs because of the support they got in some threads against animals he really likes. At least, this sounds just like him..


Thanks but I never said I dislike them, simply they are a failed breed that has a penchant for mindlessly attacking other animals. In Australia, where we have rightfully banned APBTs, SBTs tend to fill their role - killing family pets, etc. They dont tend to kill people like APBTs however. They (SBTs) fill our dog shelters too - they are cool for mindless morons till they start killing and attacking other things, and then they get dumped.

Honestly I have to agree with Taipan on that last part thogh.
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Thanks Waffleking! Its a sad situation, as these dumped dogs, then become hard to rehome due to warnings about 'must be only dog", "not suitable with cats or young children" etc.
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