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American Bulldog makes Wolf get lost!
Topic Started: Jun 20 2018, 08:26 AM (497 Views)
ImperialDino
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Wolf trys to confront AM BULLDOG in water...the Am Bulldog gets out of the water, confronts the Wolf and the Wolf runs off.

I put the AM BULLDOG in the 2nd class of dogs...breeds who probably won't defeat Wolves often but can fight too a stalemate sometimes.

The first group is lead by the Kangal...dogs who can defeat wolves.



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Edited by ImperialDino, Jun 20 2018, 08:28 AM.
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Intimidating and chasing aggressors doesn't really indicate much TBH.

If there is an account in which a domestic breed has bested or killed a North American grey wolf in a physical situation, I'd be glad to see it.

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ImperialDino
Jun 20 2018, 08:26 AM
Wolf trys to confront AM BULLDOG in water...the Am Bulldog gets out of the water, confronts the Wolf and the Wolf runs off.

I put the AM BULLDOG in the 2nd class of dogs...breeds who probably won't defeat Wolves often but can fight too a stalemate sometimes.

The first group is lead by the Kangal...dogs who can defeat wolves.

Kangals kill wolves that are like 35kg, often in groups.

Ambull would do better against a similarly sized wolf then a kangal would
Edited by k9boy, Jun 20 2018, 09:06 AM.
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Jun 20 2018, 09:05 AM
ImperialDino
Jun 20 2018, 08:26 AM
Wolf trys to confront AM BULLDOG in water...the Am Bulldog gets out of the water, confronts the Wolf and the Wolf runs off.

I put the AM BULLDOG in the 2nd class of dogs...breeds who probably won't defeat Wolves often but can fight too a stalemate sometimes.

The first group is lead by the Kangal...dogs who can defeat wolves.

Kangals kill wolves that are like 35kg, often in groups.

Ambull would do better against a similarly sized wolf then a kangal would
Kangal is bigger stronger then Am Bulldog and has thicker fur (defense against bites). The Kangal is also taller.
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Jun 20 2018, 09:18 AM
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Jun 20 2018, 09:05 AM
ImperialDino
Jun 20 2018, 08:26 AM
Wolf trys to confront AM BULLDOG in water...the Am Bulldog gets out of the water, confronts the Wolf and the Wolf runs off.

I put the AM BULLDOG in the 2nd class of dogs...breeds who probably won't defeat Wolves often but can fight too a stalemate sometimes.

The first group is lead by the Kangal...dogs who can defeat wolves.

Kangals kill wolves that are like 35kg, often in groups.

Ambull would do better against a similarly sized wolf then a kangal would
Kangal is bigger stronger then Am Bulldog and has thicker fur (defense against bites). The Kangal is also taller.
A kangal would have a stronger bite force and larger teeth than an ambull too.
Edited by Ursus 21, Jun 20 2018, 09:27 AM.
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I am talking about a wolf and kangal of similar sizes. of course generally a kangall will do better just because they are far bigger then ambulls or wolves
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Isnt that a coyote?
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Isn't that a Dogo Argentino?

Edit: Just read one of the YouTube comments and apparently it is an AmStaff and coyote. You can tell it's a coyote by its tail as it runs.
Edited by dinocat, Jun 20 2018, 09:12 PM.
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Was confirmed to be a Coyote. You can see the video here.

https://globalnews.ca/video/4243827/dog-turns-the-tables-on-coyote-in-edmontons-river-valley

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Dog turns the tables on coyote in Edmonton’s river valley


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ImperialDino
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Biggest Coyote I've ever seen...from the video that thing appears to be 70 pounds at least
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Yea, I wondered why the Wolf was so small, its body language was also more Yote like. But that is very big for a Pitbull and prolly amstaff, I am still leaning towards the not so deformed Scott type Ambull or Dogo Argentino, perhaps a mutt. Still, that is one huge Coyote, I really liked how it marked at the end like the dog is saying "that's right, run bitch".
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Jun 20 2018, 08:39 AM
Intimidating and chasing aggressors doesn't really indicate much TBH.

If there is an account in which a domestic breed has bested or killed a North American grey wolf in a physical situation, I'd be glad to see it.

I certainly agree that chasing off something is very different to killing it, but boldness and determination are very important.

Also I remember seeing an account of a Rottweiler fending off 2 wolves that sounded like they meant business, and the dog was bitten during the confrontation.

The problem here is that dogs most capable of killing wolves are very rare in North America, and even when they do meet wolves they don't fight to death since wolves don't wanna risk it in a difficult fight.

This article tho, does testify that hardier breeds that haven't been greatly watered down by breeding for the show ring have been doing better than great Pyrenees and other traditionally used dogs:

"Though publishable data are still two years away, the dogs have garnered plenty of anecdotal praise. Not a single transmontano, kangal or karakachan has been injured by a predator in the line of duty, and some have already rebuffed carnivores. One Montana rancher who had been losing sheep to bears for years hasn’t suffered a single casualty since receiving his three kangals."

https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-05-07/us-researchers-hope-more-assertive-foreign-dog-breeds-can-protect-livestock?amp

It's not a huge surprise tbh, as most western LGD breeds are nowadays being bred less for function and more for shape, and it's been the case for ages. I'm not aware of a single confirmed line of working great Pyrenees in North America for example.
Edited by Mustang, Jun 22 2018, 01:13 PM.
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every time I see this thread I have to do a double take because I think it says that an American bullfrog chased away a wolf.
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