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I'm not biased against Tyrannosaurus either, I just don't think of it as a super dinosaur, instead I think of it as a dinosaur with limitations.
I would say you think of it as a limitation with dinosaurian attributes ! BREAKING NEWS : others dinosaurs have TOO limitations !
Trex would bite spino if it came near, and spinosaurus is not agile at all please don't tell me its going to dodge the trex bite. So Tyrannosaurus is going to just suddenly bite the Spinosaurus like a ninja strike? Really?
And also, Spinosaurus is visually much larger and would intimidate the Tyrannosaurus, giving the spinosaur a psychological advantage, also it means that Spinosaurus would more likely be the aggressor, not Tyrannosaurus.
And the gape of Tyrannosaurus, being relatively low due to the jaw muscles being more adapted for powered bites than jaw opening, limits the areas of Spinosaurus' body that it can effectively bite.
Just because spino is slow and can't dodge it does not mean that the trex would do it ninja like. Spino on the other hand can't ever get a good bite because of it's jaws and its not agile the only real weapon it has is power and its claws. Spinosaurus can get a good bite, it's jaw structure actually allows for a decent bite force, check out the the thread "Spinosaurus bite force", it's opportunities for that are quite limited though. Also, it can dodge by rearing up, placing it's head and neck out of Tyrannosaurus' reach. Spinosaurus isn't going to be moving at slow-mo, how would it catch swimming fish then if it did?
The claws can only be used even slightly effectively if the dinosaur rears up, however, it's overall body strength should give Spinosaurus the advantage.
And btw, Tyrannosaurus' only real weapons are it's head and it's jaws, and the jaws are limited by their gape against a larger opponent, the battering ram-head is going to be Tyrannosaurus' best weapon here, too bad for the tyrannosaur, it has less strength than it's opponent.
Tyrannosaurus isn't going to be very agile here either, neither of them are going to run circles around the other.
Head and jaws is all it needs to injure the spinosaurus.
Spinosaurus is almost 2 times heavier than T.rex. How the hell is it going to injure an opponent that big? T.rex's bone crushing bite means nothing in this fight if the opponent is too big. Bone crushing bite means nothing?
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Apr 9 2013, 02:44 PM
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I'm not biased against Tyrannosaurus either, I just don't think of it as a super dinosaur, instead I think of it as a dinosaur with limitations.
I would say you think of it as a limitation with dinosaurian attributes ! BREAKING NEWS : others dinosaurs have TOO limitations !
Trex would bite spino if it came near, and spinosaurus is not agile at all please don't tell me its going to dodge the trex bite. So Tyrannosaurus is going to just suddenly bite the Spinosaurus like a ninja strike? Really?
And also, Spinosaurus is visually much larger and would intimidate the Tyrannosaurus, giving the spinosaur a psychological advantage, also it means that Spinosaurus would more likely be the aggressor, not Tyrannosaurus.
And the gape of Tyrannosaurus, being relatively low due to the jaw muscles being more adapted for powered bites than jaw opening, limits the areas of Spinosaurus' body that it can effectively bite.
Just because spino is slow and can't dodge it does not mean that the trex would do it ninja like. Spino on the other hand can't ever get a good bite because of it's jaws and its not agile the only real weapon it has is power and its claws. Spinosaurus can get a good bite, it's jaw structure actually allows for a decent bite force, check out the the thread "Spinosaurus bite force", it's opportunities for that are quite limited though. Also, it can dodge by rearing up, placing it's head and neck out of Tyrannosaurus' reach. Spinosaurus isn't going to be moving at slow-mo, how would it catch swimming fish then if it did?
The claws can only be used even slightly effectively if the dinosaur rears up, however, it's overall body strength should give Spinosaurus the advantage.
And btw, Tyrannosaurus' only real weapons are it's head and it's jaws, and the jaws are limited by their gape against a larger opponent, the battering ram-head is going to be Tyrannosaurus' best weapon here, too bad for the tyrannosaur, it has less strength than it's opponent.
Tyrannosaurus isn't going to be very agile here either, neither of them are going to run circles around the other.
Head and jaws is all it needs to injure the spinosaurus.
Spinosaurus is almost 2 times heavier than T.rex. How the hell is it going to injure an opponent that big? T.rex's bone crushing bite means nothing in this fight if the opponent is too big.
Bone crushing bite means nothing? He means that crushing bites are ineffective against larger opponents. The jaw muscles are adapted to maximize mouth closing force, sacrificing potential gape and this is what really limits it against opponents like Diplodocus and Spinosaurus.
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Apr 9 2013, 08:02 PM
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In both of those cases there is nothing to suggest it could not bite the most vital and accessible areas; the skull and neck.
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Apr 9 2013, 08:11 PM
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 Look at this skull!!! Really wimpy and means Nothing! It's all dumb stuff! A host, a con!!! A FRONT!!!
I see nothing wrong with that skull, like Dinopithecus said. But spinosaurus on the other hand, is bigger and can knock the tyrannosaurus over.
I highly doubt that. Tyrannosaurus will knock spino first, causing spino to roll over, breaking its back and die. Tyrannosaurus is the more skilled and experienced fighter.
Um, excuse me. But the spino is twice the rex's size and is more likely to knock the tyrannosaurus over, then step on the rex.
No no no no. T.rex 9t Spinosaurus 15t It is not twice the size at all. I do not consider it. Besides t.rex has a bulkier body, better weapons, and it is the more skilled and experienced fighter. Oh god. You are so hard to ignore.
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Apr 9 2013, 08:13 PM
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In both of those cases there is nothing to suggest it could not bite the most vital and accessible areas; the skull and neck. In both of those cases there is nothing to suggest that both creatures wouldn't try to defend their skull and neck from the Tyrannosaurus.
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Apr 9 2013, 08:16 PM
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 Look at this skull!!! Really wimpy and means Nothing! It's all dumb stuff! A host, a con!!! A FRONT!!!
I see nothing wrong with that skull, like Dinopithecus said. But spinosaurus on the other hand, is bigger and can knock the tyrannosaurus over.
I highly doubt that. Tyrannosaurus will knock spino first, causing spino to roll over, breaking its back and die. Tyrannosaurus is the more skilled and experienced fighter. How will the Tyrannosaurus knock the spinosaurus over first? Using it's supernatural head power? You said a T.rex's head can knock down a 40 ft truck, bullshit.
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Oh god. You are so hard to ignore. Ok seriously, you have just been told that dinosaur was banned a while ago after having somehow missed the news the first time around, and then you continue replying to him? ____________________
@Broly
That isn't really my point, although it is true. I also agree that a bone-crushing bite is not what is needed against larger opponents, just that I don't consider Spinosaurus to be too large.
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Apr 10 2013, 02:47 AM
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In both of those cases there is nothing to suggest it could not bite the most vital and accessible areas; the skull and neck. In both of those cases there is nothing to suggest that both creatures wouldn't try to defend their skull and neck from the Tyrannosaurus. But it is still the easiest target in this battle. It is easier to get than the flanks of Tyrannosaurus, because of the skull position.
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Apr 10 2013, 12:21 PM
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I'm not biased against Tyrannosaurus either, I just don't think of it as a super dinosaur, instead I think of it as a dinosaur with limitations.
I would say you think of it as a limitation with dinosaurian attributes ! BREAKING NEWS : others dinosaurs have TOO limitations !
Trex would bite spino if it came near, and spinosaurus is not agile at all please don't tell me its going to dodge the trex bite. So Tyrannosaurus is going to just suddenly bite the Spinosaurus like a ninja strike? Really?
And also, Spinosaurus is visually much larger and would intimidate the Tyrannosaurus, giving the spinosaur a psychological advantage, also it means that Spinosaurus would more likely be the aggressor, not Tyrannosaurus.
And the gape of Tyrannosaurus, being relatively low due to the jaw muscles being more adapted for powered bites than jaw opening, limits the areas of Spinosaurus' body that it can effectively bite.
Just because spino is slow and can't dodge it does not mean that the trex would do it ninja like. Spino on the other hand can't ever get a good bite because of it's jaws and its not agile the only real weapon it has is power and its claws. Spinosaurus can get a good bite, it's jaw structure actually allows for a decent bite force, check out the the thread "Spinosaurus bite force", it's opportunities for that are quite limited though. Also, it can dodge by rearing up, placing it's head and neck out of Tyrannosaurus' reach. Spinosaurus isn't going to be moving at slow-mo, how would it catch swimming fish then if it did?
The claws can only be used even slightly effectively if the dinosaur rears up, however, it's overall body strength should give Spinosaurus the advantage.
And btw, Tyrannosaurus' only real weapons are it's head and it's jaws, and the jaws are limited by their gape against a larger opponent, the battering ram-head is going to be Tyrannosaurus' best weapon here, too bad for the tyrannosaur, it has less strength than it's opponent.
Tyrannosaurus isn't going to be very agile here either, neither of them are going to run circles around the other.
Head and jaws is all it needs to injure the spinosaurus.
Spinosaurus is almost 2 times heavier than T.rex. How the hell is it going to injure an opponent that big? T.rex's bone crushing bite means nothing in this fight if the opponent is too big.
Bone crushing bite means nothing? He means that crushing bites are ineffective against larger opponents. The jaw muscles are adapted to maximize mouth closing force, sacrificing potential gape and this is what really limits it against opponents like Diplodocus and Spinosaurus. Are you sure? their neck seems rather thin just like the useless jaw
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I'm not biased against Tyrannosaurus either, I just don't think of it as a super dinosaur, instead I think of it as a dinosaur with limitations.
I would say you think of it as a limitation with dinosaurian attributes ! BREAKING NEWS : others dinosaurs have TOO limitations !
Trex would bite spino if it came near, and spinosaurus is not agile at all please don't tell me its going to dodge the trex bite. So Tyrannosaurus is going to just suddenly bite the Spinosaurus like a ninja strike? Really?
And also, Spinosaurus is visually much larger and would intimidate the Tyrannosaurus, giving the spinosaur a psychological advantage, also it means that Spinosaurus would more likely be the aggressor, not Tyrannosaurus.
And the gape of Tyrannosaurus, being relatively low due to the jaw muscles being more adapted for powered bites than jaw opening, limits the areas of Spinosaurus' body that it can effectively bite.
Just because spino is slow and can't dodge it does not mean that the trex would do it ninja like. Spino on the other hand can't ever get a good bite because of it's jaws and its not agile the only real weapon it has is power and its claws. Spinosaurus can get a good bite, it's jaw structure actually allows for a decent bite force, check out the the thread "Spinosaurus bite force", it's opportunities for that are quite limited though. Also, it can dodge by rearing up, placing it's head and neck out of Tyrannosaurus' reach. Spinosaurus isn't going to be moving at slow-mo, how would it catch swimming fish then if it did?
The claws can only be used even slightly effectively if the dinosaur rears up, however, it's overall body strength should give Spinosaurus the advantage.
And btw, Tyrannosaurus' only real weapons are it's head and it's jaws, and the jaws are limited by their gape against a larger opponent, the battering ram-head is going to be Tyrannosaurus' best weapon here, too bad for the tyrannosaur, it has less strength than it's opponent.
Tyrannosaurus isn't going to be very agile here either, neither of them are going to run circles around the other.
Head and jaws is all it needs to injure the spinosaurus.
Spinosaurus is almost 2 times heavier than T.rex. How the hell is it going to injure an opponent that big? T.rex's bone crushing bite means nothing in this fight if the opponent is too big.
Bone crushing bite means nothing? He means that crushing bites are ineffective against larger opponents. The jaw muscles are adapted to maximize mouth closing force, sacrificing potential gape and this is what really limits it against opponents like Diplodocus and Spinosaurus.
Are you sure? their neck seems rather thin just like the useless jaw Spinosaurus' neck isn't really thin(it needs some neck muscles in there to help it catch and hold large 1-2 tonne struggling fish!), and Spinosaurus' jaw is far from useless. Why do many people underestimate the capabilities of non-tyrannosaur theropods?
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It's simple really. Compared to tyrannosaurus, spinosaurus' neck and jaws have an easier job to do. It filled a niche that doesn't require them to be able to bring down large dinosaurs (1-2 ton fish at best). People aren't underestimating the capabilities of these jaws/neck. You yourself identified that they are suitable for hunting fish, not multi ton theropods.
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It's simple really. Compared to tyrannosaurus, spinosaurus' neck and jaws have an easier job to do. It filled a niche that doesn't require them to be able to bring down large dinosaurs (1-2 ton fish at best). People aren't underestimating the capabilities of these jaws/neck. You yourself identified that they are suitable for hunting fish, not multi ton theropods. He said that it's neck was thin and it's jaws were useless. Obviously, both of those are flawed ideas. The thin neck idea came from Greg Paul who for some reason keeps his dinosaurs anorexic, and the "useless jaw" idea was made by haters/fanboys. I was not making a comparison, just pointing out errors.
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I'm not biased against Tyrannosaurus either, I just don't think of it as a super dinosaur, instead I think of it as a dinosaur with limitations.
I would say you think of it as a limitation with dinosaurian attributes ! BREAKING NEWS : others dinosaurs have TOO limitations !
Trex would bite spino if it came near, and spinosaurus is not agile at all please don't tell me its going to dodge the trex bite. So Tyrannosaurus is going to just suddenly bite the Spinosaurus like a ninja strike? Really?
And also, Spinosaurus is visually much larger and would intimidate the Tyrannosaurus, giving the spinosaur a psychological advantage, also it means that Spinosaurus would more likely be the aggressor, not Tyrannosaurus.
And the gape of Tyrannosaurus, being relatively low due to the jaw muscles being more adapted for powered bites than jaw opening, limits the areas of Spinosaurus' body that it can effectively bite.
Just because spino is slow and can't dodge it does not mean that the trex would do it ninja like. Spino on the other hand can't ever get a good bite because of it's jaws and its not agile the only real weapon it has is power and its claws. Spinosaurus can get a good bite, it's jaw structure actually allows for a decent bite force, check out the the thread "Spinosaurus bite force", it's opportunities for that are quite limited though. Also, it can dodge by rearing up, placing it's head and neck out of Tyrannosaurus' reach. Spinosaurus isn't going to be moving at slow-mo, how would it catch swimming fish then if it did?
The claws can only be used even slightly effectively if the dinosaur rears up, however, it's overall body strength should give Spinosaurus the advantage.
And btw, Tyrannosaurus' only real weapons are it's head and it's jaws, and the jaws are limited by their gape against a larger opponent, the battering ram-head is going to be Tyrannosaurus' best weapon here, too bad for the tyrannosaur, it has less strength than it's opponent.
Tyrannosaurus isn't going to be very agile here either, neither of them are going to run circles around the other.
Head and jaws is all it needs to injure the spinosaurus.
Spinosaurus is almost 2 times heavier than T.rex. How the hell is it going to injure an opponent that big? T.rex's bone crushing bite means nothing in this fight if the opponent is too big.
Bone crushing bite means nothing? He means that crushing bites are ineffective against larger opponents. The jaw muscles are adapted to maximize mouth closing force, sacrificing potential gape and this is what really limits it against opponents like Diplodocus and Spinosaurus.
Are you sure? their neck seems rather thin just like the useless jaw Spinosaurus' neck isn't really thin(it needs some neck muscles in there to help it catch and hold large 1-2 tonne struggling fish!), and Spinosaurus' jaw is far from useless. Why do many people underestimate the capabilities of non-tyrannosaur theropods? T rex's jaw gape is big enough to bite spinosaurus' neck or jaw. While spino was catching fish tyrannosaur was hunting large triceratops or ankylosaurus'
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Fish that could be the size of rhinos....Also, remember that Spinosaurus was only partially piscivorous.
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LOL@ broly. Your notion on Torvosaurus is not supported by any evidence. Again your bigotry towards certain opinions and animals is astonishing. I think you showed signs of betterment but I guess I was wrong.
Please, can you say me if it is wortwhile to discuss with this guy ? I have never seen such a bad faith among dinos forumers... Me or him? I try to keep my arguments as scientific as possible, which is nearly impossible with certain users. If my attitude comes over a little nasty, I am just tired of fanatical quasi-religious worship and denigration of animals.
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