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Carcharocles megalodon
Topic Started: Jan 8 2012, 07:30 PM (10,791 Views)
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Taipan, give me one scientific source where I can read that Megalodon was a scavenger please.


What about the email you recieved from Gottfried:

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"Ted -- Thanks for your questions: I would not trust the one inch=10 feet calculation, it would depend on which position in the jaw the tooth comes from, and many other factors. Also, white sharks do not grow at a constant rate -- their growth rate slows down as they get larger -- so I don't think that would be a very accurate method. I think a more reliable way is to estimate megalodon length by comparing the size of the megalodon tooth to a tooth from the same jaw position in a white shark, that way it is at least based on something real. I think somewhere between 50 and 60 feet is a reasonable estimate for a very large megalodon (I have not seen the supposed 9 inch tooth). Can't say if there were any fishes or sharks larger than megalodon because all we can do is estimate from the data we do have, and there is no definitive answer to this. It is certainly possible that megalodon preyed on sperm whales, and vice-versa, but I suspect more likely that they scavenged on dead ones, which would be much easier - and safer. "
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Details of ancient shark attack preserved in fossil whale bone

A fragment of whale rib found in a North Carolina strip mine is offering scientists a rare glimpse at the interactions between prehistoric sharks and whales some 3- to 4-million years ago during the Pliocene.

Three tooth marks on the rib indicate the whale was once severely bitten by a strong-jawed animal. Judging by the 6 centimeter spacing between tooth marks, scientists believe the attacker was a mega toothed shark Carcharocles megalodon, or perhaps another species of large shark which was alive at that time. The whale appears to have been an ancestor of a great blue or humpback.

"One certainly doesn't expect to find evidence of animal behavior preserved in the fossil record, but this fossil shows just that, a failed predation," explains Stephen Godfrey, paleontologist at the Calvert Marine Museum in Solomons, Md. and a Smithsonian research collaborator, who discovered the fossil. "The shark may have gone away with a mouthful, but it didn't kill the whale"

Scientists know the whale survived because "most of the fossil fragment is covered with a type of bone known as woven bone, which forms rapidly in response to localized infection," explains Don Ortner, an anthropologist at the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History and authority on the effect of disorders on skeletal tissue. "Biomechanically woven bone is not very strong. The body eventually remodels it into compact bone, but it takes time." CT scans reveal evidence of inflammation in the bone marrow consistent with infection.

The presence of the woven bone indicates the healing was incomplete and the whale died, the scientists estimate, between two and 6 weeks after the attack. The whale's death may have been unrelated to its infection and injury, Ortner says. "We don't know why it died."

Based on the curvature of the shark's jaw, as indicated by the arc of the impressions of its teeth, the scientists believe the shark was relatively small, between 4- and 8 meters long.

In the realm of paleontology, "only a handful of fossils show these kinds of interactions," Godfrey explains. "There are lots of bite marks on fossils showing where the animal died and its carcass was scavenged. This fossil is one of a very few examples that shows a trauma clearly attributed to another animal, yet also shows the victim survived the event."

"Bone Reactions on a Pliocene Cetacean Rib Indicate Short-Term Survival of Predation Event" was published in the International Journal of Osteoarchaeology and is co-authored by Robert Kallal and Stephen Godfrey of the Calvert Marine Museum in Solomons, Md., and Donald Ortner of the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History.


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This illustration shows one plausible way, and the most likely, in which the three calluses preserved on the whale rib came about: a bite from one of the large Pliocene sharks with which these huge baleen whales had to contend.

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Whale bone fossil showing three tooth marks from a shark. The marks on the rib indicate the whale was once severely bitten by a strong-jawed animal. Judging by the 6 centimeter (2.4 inch) spacing between tooth marks, scientists believe the attacker was a mega toothed shark Carcharocles megalodon, or perhaps another species of large shark which was alive at that time. The whale appears to have been an ancestor of a great blue or humpback.



http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-11/s-doa111011.php
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A documentary from Prehistoric Predators, named Monster Shark about Megalodon




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The biggest and most powerful marine macro-predator ever ?

Still, an all time awesome creature.
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Megalodon: The Ultimate Shark

This week at the Museum, we are putting the finishing touches on a reconstruction of the jaws of the Megalodon, the largest shark the world has ever known.

Our reconstruction, which is approximately 10 feet tall and 11 feet wide, would have fit comfortably in a 60 foot shark that weighed in the range of 100 tons.

To put this in perspective, the Megalodon would have been about the same length as 1 ½ yellow school busses and would have weighed about the same as a small blue whale.

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The history of paleontology is a topic I find interesting, as early interpretations of fossils often tell you less about the animal and more about the culture that has discovered it. Originally, the Megalodon teeth were identified as “glossopetrae” or tongue stones, and were believed to be the petrified tongues of snakes and dragons.

I have seen students wondering why this information is in the textbook or if it will it be included on the test. Broadly speaking, these footnotes in paleontological history let the reader appreciate how far we have come. As simplistic and even childish as they seem to readers today, the historical interpretations weren’t based in ignorance. They were based in the organized systems of thoughts and beliefs of the time.

The first people to discover the fossilized teeth, knowing little else than the shape and color of the tooth, saw the teeth as having menacing origins. Knowing today that the fossil is actually a tooth from a giant shark does not change that reaction.

In the 20 years I have taught at the museum, shark teeth – Megalodon teeth in particular – have always been popular with the public. Holding and examining Megalodon teeth creates a sense of awe the minds of our patrons.

Experience this sense of wonder today and tomorrow – and be sure to put a note on your calendar for the summer of 2012 for the opening of the new Hall of Paleontology where this jaw will be displayed in pursuit of some unexpected prey.



http://blog.hmns.org/2011/08/megalodon-the-ultimate-shark/
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Check out this Megalodon’s megawatt smile, and step inside if you dare



Meet our Megalodon! Among the 60 new mounts set to debut this summer at HMNS’ brand spanking new Paleontology Hall is this Megalodon jaw, which spans 12 feet.

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The Paleontology Hall was designed to be interactive, so most of the mounts were designed in action poses. Not to be left out, the jaws of this Megalodon will be displayed swallowing a swimming elephant.

Look how they dwarf our Paleontology curator, David Temple:

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Check out the rest of this sneak peek and be sure to stay up-to-date on all our Paleo plans:

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^ Great articles and pics Grey. Look forward to your communications with the Museum in June.
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^ Great articles and pics Grey. Look forward to your communications with the Museum in June.
Certainly as usual !

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Megalodon shark attacking a whale, artwork. Megalodon (Carcharodon megalodon) was a huge prehistoric shark that lived 25-1.5 million years ago. Fossil evidence of its teeth and a few bones suggests that Megalodon grew over 20 metres in length and weighed over 100 tons. It is the largest carnivore that ever lived.


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Staring into the jaws of shark evolution.

THE fossilised tooth pictured here belonged to a juvenile shark that grew up to 14m long, weighed 20 tonnes and snacked on baleen whales.

Having died out two to three million years ago, Carcharocles megalodon, a relative of the white sharks would have discouraged coastal living among early humans.


A tooth from Carcharocles megalodon / Image: Courtesy Dr Mikael Siversson
This 13cm tooth found at Cape Range near Exmouth in WA’s North-West.

The maximum size of a modern ‘great white’ is about 6m long and two tonnes in weight. So why did they downsize? And are they headed for the evolutionary goldfish bowl?

“They’ve done very well but it doesn’t look good,” WA Museum palaeontologist Dr Mikael Siversson told ScienceNetworkWA on the eve of two lectures in Geraldton.

Speaking as part of the International Year of Biodiversity, Dr Siversson is an authority on Cretaceous lamniform sharks, a group known from the latter part of the age of dinosaurs about 100 million years ago.

His studies trace the evolution of one particular lineage of sharks, called lamniforms, and how they interacted with other ‘apex’ predators.

Specialising in fossil sharks and rays, Dr Siversson says until about 90 to 95 million years ago, big marine reptiles such as ichthyosaurs and pliosaurs were the top predators.

The rise of giant lamniform sharks took place in the early Cretaceous, with 100 species at the peak of their diversity 100 million years ago.

Today, only 15 species of lamniform sharks, including great whites, exist.

Carcharocles megalodon was the largest extinct predator of any kind found in WA, which is what ultimately knocked it off the top of the evolutionary perch.

“One of the theories is that with the onset of the ice age two to three million years ago the baleen whales on which the megalodon preyed began to migrate to higher latitudes for food,” Dr Siversson said.

This left the giant sharks without a food source - presenting evolutionary pressures which acted against their big size and appetites.

The fall of the super predatory sharks has left its modern versions to compete with whaler and gummy sharks.

“By looking at the fossil record you get an idea of where organisms are heading,” he said.

“And the great white is heading towards extinction.”

The curator of palaeontology delivered the talks in Geraldton as part of the Harry Butler lecture series, In the Wild West, by WA Museum scientists and associates, and plans to hold one soon in Perth
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http://www.sciencewa.net.au/topics/environment-a-conservation/item/25-staring-into-the-jaws-of-shark-evolution?tmpl=component&print=1
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Illustration on display showing a Megalodon "King of the Sharks" about to swallow an elephant at the Houston Museum of Natural Science. (Source)
Edited by Meg_Man, Jul 17 2012, 04:27 PM.
"You're gonna need a bigger boat."

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Sharkzilla

To celebrate the 25th anniversary of Shark Week, Animal Planet is resurrecting the largest shark to ever swim in our oceans: the megalodon. Measuring up to 52 feet in length and weighing approximately 100,000 pounds, these prehistoric predators were the size of a humpback whale. However, unlike the placid humpback, the megalodon had 250 six inch long teeth, set in jaws six feet wide and eight feet tall, enabling it to exert a stronger bite force than any other creature in our planet's history. Watch as a crew including MythBusters' Kari Byron, Grant Imahara and Tori Belleci, come together to reconstruct this million year old marine monster and put its massive hydraulic jaws to the test.

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Source: http://press.discovery.com/emea/apl/programs/sharkzilla/
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By the way, you can already see a bunch of illustrations of the "Sharkzilla's bite force on youtube. Just put in sharkzilla and you'll get a bunch of different videos. I note that the jaws size and size of the model shark in general are very conservative. I don't know if they used the conservative size estimated bite force for the model shark, or the maximum estimated bite force, but the size of the jaws and length of the shark themselves would represent a conservative size shark
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Conservative, but if the bulk was really that massive, even at 52 feet it seems sort of unstoppable aggressor.

By the way, thanks for the first pic Meg_Man, this is images like this which let me think it is indeed "the mother of all predators".
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Great pictures Meg_Man I also love the thirst drawing with the elephant.
@Grey,I think ist'snot required to use a superlative like "mother of all predators" to describe a living organism.it makes your arguments less...professional.
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