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Animal vs. Animal Pictorial; These are accounts of natural confrontations. Animal Cruelty NOT intended.
Topic Started: Jan 10 2012, 11:27 AM (334,813 Views)
Vobby
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I didn't know that spider, cool!

Edit: Just to say (on topic after all)



Edit2: Better video, real footage (I'm disappointed by the luck of jumping...)



Edit3: Ok sorry, I'll stop here, just for having a sort of revenge



Lol I'm a liar, Edit4: Yellow rainforest jumping spider vs Tiger jumping spider


Edited by Vobby, Jul 3 2014, 09:39 AM.
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Black Ice
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Monitor lizards apparently control feral cat populations in Australia somewhat.
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VenomousDragon
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That kitten looks like it life wasn't peaches even before it got attack by a big ass lizard.
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I'm not sure its a feral but that's an awesome picture.
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If its not feral who ever owned it wasn't taking care of it at all.
It looks thin and its ears look ragged
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Everything else is just a dog.
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JackLumber
Jul 9 2014, 09:53 AM
If its not feral who ever owned it wasn't taking care of it at all.
It looks thin and its ears look ragged
I could be wrong, but I rarely see ferals with fur that clean overall. Or that colour for that matter. There's every chance it is though. Perhaps there were details from where the photo came from?
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Jul 9 2014, 07:45 AM
Monitor lizards apparently control feral cat populations in Australia somewhat.
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freaking awesome photo
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spinosaurus rex
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beautiful western green lizards
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Jul 9 2014, 12:37 PM
JackLumber
Jul 9 2014, 09:53 AM
If its not feral who ever owned it wasn't taking care of it at all.
It looks thin and its ears look ragged
I could be wrong, but I rarely see ferals with fur that clean overall. Or that colour for that matter. There's every chance it is though. Perhaps there were details from where the photo came from?
Maybe its one of its parents were house cats and its fur being clean isn't odd considering how young the animal is.
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wrestling lace monitors
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http://www.mmg.com.au/local-news/shepparton/life-and-death-struggle-1.39884
Says here it was feral
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^I'm just wondering why he didn't post more of the pictures he took.
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Hard to say, maybe the other shots were of poor quality or maybe because its a local news page he had no control or which picture(s) they used.

Even if he is lying and it was someones pet (I really don't think it was) I wouldn't feel too bad cats as a whole are very damaging to australian wildlife.
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Black Ice
Jul 9 2014, 07:45 AM
Monitor lizards apparently control feral cat populations in Australia somewhat.


Unfortunately no. Feral cats threaten many of Australi's reptile species - including species of Monitor Lizards.

Taipan
Jul 2 2012, 01:32 PM
"Research with Rosenberg’s Goanna (Green, Rismiller, McKelvey) has shown that feral cats are persistent predators. They frequently catch subadult goannas, opportunistically kill adults and in two cases have been documented to deliberately stalk and kill adult goannas. “…At 1600 hrs on 27 March 1996 we were radio tracking a female goanna which had been known in the study population for seventeen years. The signal came from an area that she seldom used. She was tracked to the entrance of a cat den in a mallee root burrow. The freshly killed carcass was found with six other dead goannas. All animals had been dead less than six hours. All had been killed with a single bite in the back of the head. Five were known individuals with implanted identification microchips. Using daily tracking records and home range maps for each individual goanna it was calculated that the greatest distance of probable catch from the cat den as approximately two kilometres. Circumstances suggest that the female cat had prior knowledge of each goannas activity pattern (at this time of year, many goannas have a daily foraging circuit) and had deliberately stalked, killed and brought the prey back to her kittens. The female cat was trapped and over the next five days six kittens were trapped or shot at the den (unpublished data, PLRC 1996).”
http://www.echidna.edu.au/projects/feral/feral_peggy.pdf

An adult Rosenberg's Goanna reaches up to 1.5 metres in length.
http://www.pittwater.nsw.gov.au/environment/plants__and__animals/threatened_species/animals/rosenbergs_goanna


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Taipan
Jul 9 2014, 04:41 PM
Black Ice
Jul 9 2014, 07:45 AM
Monitor lizards apparently control feral cat populations in Australia somewhat.


Unfortunately no. Feral cats threaten many of Australi's reptile species - including species of Monitor Lizards.

Taipan
Jul 2 2012, 01:32 PM
"Research with Rosenberg’s Goanna (Green, Rismiller, McKelvey) has shown that feral cats are persistent predators. They frequently catch subadult goannas, opportunistically kill adults and in two cases have been documented to deliberately stalk and kill adult goannas. “…At 1600 hrs on 27 March 1996 we were radio tracking a female goanna which had been known in the study population for seventeen years. The signal came from an area that she seldom used. She was tracked to the entrance of a cat den in a mallee root burrow. The freshly killed carcass was found with six other dead goannas. All animals had been dead less than six hours. All had been killed with a single bite in the back of the head. Five were known individuals with implanted identification microchips. Using daily tracking records and home range maps for each individual goanna it was calculated that the greatest distance of probable catch from the cat den as approximately two kilometres. Circumstances suggest that the female cat had prior knowledge of each goannas activity pattern (at this time of year, many goannas have a daily foraging circuit) and had deliberately stalked, killed and brought the prey back to her kittens. The female cat was trapped and over the next five days six kittens were trapped or shot at the den (unpublished data, PLRC 1996).”
http://www.echidna.edu.au/projects/feral/feral_peggy.pdf

An adult Rosenberg's Goanna reaches up to 1.5 metres in length.
http://www.pittwater.nsw.gov.au/environment/plants__and__animals/threatened_species/animals/rosenbergs_goanna


1 he is actually entirely correct, adult large Goanna seem to take kittens with a fair amount of regularity which does indeed mean they are atleast minorly aiding in the supression of their population and thus aiding in their control.
2 its not even the same species, A feral cat taking an adult lace monitor (called tree goanna down there correct?) is a mighty feat, it would be amoung the most impressive accounts of predation I've seen from the domestic cat but this is one of the lesser goannas and considering the often large difference between maxiums and averages for Varanids this may not be as impressive as it seems, hell even at the maxium 1.5 meters for a monitor lizard isn't as big as it sounds, atleast half that length is tail (likey more but I'm not overly familar with the species) bringing snout to vent length down to .75 meters for a large individual whuch means unless its a heavy set monitor lizard like the savannah or african rock monitor (even then) you would lucky to be looking at a hanful of pounds for a large adult.
Don't get me wrong its still impressive for a small game specialist like a cat but rosenberg's doesn't really compare to a lace monitor which was clearly the monitor we were discussing specified or not.
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