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Animal vs. Animal Pictorial; These are accounts of natural confrontations. Animal Cruelty NOT intended.
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VenomousDragon	Jun 6 2015, 05:28 PM Post #661
Omnivore Posts: 1,648 Group: Members Member #484 Joined: Jul 31, 2012	It's not just the size but the how gracile the leopard looksm



kuri	Jun 6 2015, 05:36 PM Post #662
Omnivore Posts: 1,098 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: Jan 6, 2012	Wolf vs cougar.



ManEater	Jun 6 2015, 06:06 PM Post #663
Omnivore Posts: 1,112 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Taipan Jun 6 2015, 05:05 PM Inhumanum Rapax Jun 6 2015, 03:02 AM ManEater Jun 6 2015, 03:00 AM Looks like a male puma with a leopardess or a young male leopard, hard to say the subpecie with this shot. Maybe it is in refuge who sometimes make absurd mix. Yeah, I was thinking that it was a leopardess myself. Or maybe the Cougar is just bigger, because cougars are naturally bigger. So it must be a dwarf subspecie of leopard to give the cougar an advantage in the size of the head like this, because even bigger, cougars have got overall smaller head, and i would say for sure it's not a prime male in the first shot. http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9333892/1/#new In the second one, i would say it is a black indochinese leopard, nice picture, but one time again strange mix.



Taipan	Jun 6 2015, 06:12 PM Post #664
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	ManEater Jun 6 2015, 06:06 PM Taipan Jun 6 2015, 05:05 PM Inhumanum Rapax Jun 6 2015, 03:02 AM Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Or maybe the Cougar is just bigger, because cougars are naturally bigger. So it must be a dwarf subspecie of leopard to give the cougar an advantage in the size of the head like this, because even bigger, cougars have got overall smaller head, and i would say for sure it's not a prime male in the first shot. http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9333892/1/#new I think you are being oversensitive here. Leopards are smaller cats than Cougars. Proportionally they may have larger heads than cougars but the difference is probably not as great as you hope. Just some advice, enjoy the picture for what it is, love all animals., and don't be so sensitive to the point than anything that you think may not make Leopards look like nature's Omnipotent super cat requires excuses or qualifications. Edited by Taipan, Jun 6 2015, 06:39 PM.



ManEater	Jun 6 2015, 06:46 PM Post #665
Omnivore Posts: 1,112 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	I don't understand your post, i don't think to be oversensitive, i just look at skull mm in studies, i hope nothing, i just watch, that's why the difference of size of heads and massiveness in the picture lead to this conclusion: The leopard in the shot is a small adult or a leopardess, and i still enjoy the picture.



Kurtz	Jun 6 2015, 09:23 PM Post #666
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	1977marc Jun 5 2015, 07:35 PM Huge Croc against huge male leopard. Kenya This leopard has some set of huge balls There was an exciting sighting recently when two crocodile were seen with the carcass of a zebra on the bank of the Mara River. The smaller of the two crocodile quickly receded back into the river and as soon as it had gone a male leopard then materialised from the long grass on the bank above and started to compete with the one large crocodile for the meal. The leopard tugged away and snarled, all the time the crocodile did not give in, after a few minutes, only when the Leopard released his grip the crocodile swung around and took the complete remains of the Zebra back into the river. The leopard appeared shocked that the crocodile moved very quickly complete with meal. Photo courtesy of Governors Il Moran Camp Guest John Lyall. — bij Governors Il Moran Camp. wow!



Taipan	Jun 6 2015, 10:47 PM Post #667
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	ManEater Jun 6 2015, 06:46 PM The leopard in the shot is a small adult or a leopardess, and i still enjoy the picture. My conclusion is the cougar is naturally the larger cat, and maybe the picture just reflects this.



ManEater	Jun 6 2015, 11:13 PM Post #668
Omnivore Posts: 1,112 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	I'm sure you're not an ignorant guy, and know it look obvious that the picture don't show a mature male leopard, and if it is (really think not) it should be dwar subspecie (javan for example). I'm sure you don't ignore studies on skull size on both species. And i'm sure you don't ignore that saying the cougar is the bigger cat is very debatable given the fact datas are very limited on several leopards subspecies like persian, sri lankan or west african leopards with big skulls average.



Inhumanum Rapax	Jun 7 2015, 02:52 AM Post #669
Parabola Vita Posts: 1,290 Group: Members Member #2,665 Joined: Jul 19, 2014	Taipan Jun 6 2015, 05:05 PM Inhumanum Rapax Jun 6 2015, 02:30 AM Any more info on this pic? I didn't think that a zoo would let two different carnivorous species be in the same enclosure, especially when both animals have a known tendency to be hostile towards other felids. On a side note, judging by comparative head size, the cougar would be a good deal heavier than the leopard. ManEater Jun 6 2015, 03:00 AM Looks like a male puma with a leopardess or a young male leopard, hard to say the subpecie with this shot. Maybe it is in refuge who sometimes make absurd mix. No, I dont know the details, but I dare say they are just playing - they can be friends in captivity. Inhumanum Rapax Jun 6 2015, 03:02 AM ManEater Jun 6 2015, 03:00 AM Looks like a male puma with a leopardess or a young male leopard, hard to say the subpecie with this shot. Maybe it is in refuge who sometimes make absurd mix. Yeah, I was thinking that it was a leopardess myself. Or maybe the Cougar is just bigger, because cougars are naturally bigger. Yes cougars are naturally bigger than leopards but it wasn't just the size of the leopard I was talking about. It's head seems too gracile and slim to be an adult male. I'm not saying that leopards are better than cougars if that's what you're inferring. Cougars are my favorite big cat, and I've defended them from people who think that they're inferior to leopards on many occasions.



Taipan	Jun 7 2015, 01:43 PM Post #670
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	ManEater Jun 6 2015, 11:13 PM And i'm sure you don't ignore that saying the cougar is the bigger cat is very debatable given the fact datas are very limited on several leopards subspecies like persian, sri lankan or west african leopards with big skulls average. I don't deal with fantasy, 'maybes', or 'could be's' or "I hope so" - cougars are bigger cats than leopards. If you cant handle that, find a different animal to worship.



chui	Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM Post #671
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 360 Group: Members Member #375 Joined: Jun 12, 2012	Taipan Jun 7 2015, 01:43 PM ManEater Jun 6 2015, 11:13 PM And i'm sure you don't ignore that saying the cougar is the bigger cat is very debatable given the fact datas are very limited on several leopards subspecies like persian, sri lankan or west african leopards with big skulls average. I don't deal with fantasy, 'maybes', or 'could be's' or "I hope so" - cougars are bigger cats than leopards. If you cant handle that, find a different animal to worship. Really? Based on what exactly? The picture you posted which started this little convo shows mainly the heads/necks which appear to bigger in the cougar in this case. The fact of the matter is that no matter what your opinion is on the overall size of these cats, male leopards have much bigger heads and necks than male cougars, period. So no that picture is not reflective of the size difference of the two cats.



Kurtz	Jun 7 2015, 05:41 PM Post #672
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	Taipan Jun 7 2015, 01:43 PM ManEater Jun 6 2015, 11:13 PM And i'm sure you don't ignore that saying the cougar is the bigger cat is very debatable given the fact datas are very limited on several leopards subspecies like persian, sri lankan or west african leopards with big skulls average. I don't deal with fantasy, 'maybes', or 'could be's' or "I hope so" - cougars are bigger cats than leopards. If you cant handle that, find a different animal to worship. Poor taipan his week end ruined by the head of leopard. Try you taipan to choose another animal to worship, you must spend a better/smarter week-ends. Edited by Kurtz, Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM.



Taipan	Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM Post #673
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	chui Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM [Really? Based on what exactly? Size. chui Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM The picture you posted which started this little convo shows mainly the heads/necks which appear to bigger in the cougar in this case. Well done - everyone else has noted that too. chui Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM The fact of the matter is that no matter what your opinion is on the overall size of these cats, male leopards have much bigger heads and necks than male cougars, period. Again well done - everyone has noted that too. chui Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM So no that picture is not reflective of the size difference of the two cats. Its very reflective of the difference of the two cats involved - at least some others noted that not every leopard falls into the norm attempted to be portrayed in big territorial male thread and may be a mid size subspecies. Kurtz Jun 7 2015, 05:41 PM Poor taipan his week end ruined by the head of leopard. Try you taipan to choose another animal to worship, you must spend a better/smarter week-end. Cute Kurtz - I wasn't expecting to find anything intelligent in a response from you, so just go back to hailing Leopards. Edited by Taipan, Jun 7 2015, 05:46 PM.



Kurtz	Jun 7 2015, 05:51 PM Post #674
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	Taipan Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM Cute Kurtz - I wasn't expecting to find anything intelligent in a response from you, so just go back to hailing Leopards. Who are you? your references? Edited by Kurtz, Jun 7 2015, 05:53 PM.



Taipan	Jun 7 2015, 05:55 PM Post #675
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Kurtz Jun 7 2015, 05:51 PM Taipan Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM Cute Kurtz - I wasn't expecting to find anything intelligent in a response from you, so just go back to hailing Leopards. Who are you? your references? Yes I was right - case closed.



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