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Animal vs. Animal Pictorial; These are accounts of natural confrontations. Animal Cruelty NOT intended.
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Kurtz	Jun 7 2015, 06:14 PM Post #676
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	Taipan Jun 7 2015, 05:55 PM Kurtz Jun 7 2015, 05:51 PM Taipan Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM Cute Kurtz - I wasn't expecting to find anything intelligent in a response from you, so just go back to hailing Leopards. Who are you? your references? Yes I was right - case closed. good for you, now you can sleep



chui	Jun 7 2015, 07:04 PM Post #677
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 360 Group: Members Member #375 Joined: Jun 12, 2012	Taipan Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM chui Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM [Really? Based on what exactly? Size. Great cop out. Didn't really expect much of a discussion from you but for anyone else interested I'll honour it with a response. If you want to dismiss proper interpretation of all available info as "maybe's and wishful thinking" that isn't really going to help your case. If raw data on weights is all you are interested in then once again you will be disappointed. The highest scientifically recorded average weights for male leopards and male cougars now are actually around the same (~70kg) with the cougar having at best a 5kg advantage. Gone are the days when you could simply post the measurement tables from Sunquist's "Wild Cats of the World" with limited data (not to mention actual errors) and show the cougar as the larger cat. There's a lot more info now available. Moreover, the maximum recorded weights from first hand scientific sources are actually higher for the leopard! The heaviest weights for male cougars I've found outside hunted trophy specimens are around 80kg whereas a few male leopards weighing around 90kg or more have been recorded by researchers! Without the ridiculous claims from early American hunters of 120 or 130kg cougars which have made their way into reference books, there is not much to suggest this cat is capable of reaching any more extraordinary size than the leopard. So no the cougar is not "naturally the larger cat". Whatever that means. Edited by chui, Jun 7 2015, 07:05 PM.



Taipan	Jun 7 2015, 08:14 PM Post #678
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	chui Jun 7 2015, 07:04 PM Taipan Jun 7 2015, 05:45 PM chui Jun 7 2015, 04:42 PM [Really? Based on what exactly? Size. Great cop out. Didn't really expect much of a discussion from you but for anyone else interested I'll honour it with a response. If you want to dismiss proper interpretation of all available info as "maybe's and wishful thinking" that isn't really going to help your case. If raw data on weights is all you are interested in then once again you will be disappointed. The highest scientifically recorded average weights for male leopards and male cougars now are actually around the same (~70kg) with the cougar having at best a 5kg advantage. Gone are the days when you could simply post the measurement tables from Sunquist's "Wild Cats of the World" with limited data (not to mention actual errors) and show the cougar as the larger cat. There's a lot more info now available. Moreover, the maximum recorded weights from first hand scientific sources are actually higher for the leopard! The heaviest weights for male cougars I've found outside hunted trophy specimens are around 80kg whereas a few male leopards weighing around 90kg or more have been recorded by researchers! Without the ridiculous claims from early American hunters of 120 or 130kg cougars which have made their way into reference books, there is not much to suggest this cat is capable of reaching any more extraordinary size than the leopard. So no the cougar is not "naturally the larger cat". Whatever that means. You can back up your claims here : Cougar and Leopard Weight Comparison



Wombatman	Jun 7 2015, 09:55 PM Post #679
Herbivore Posts: 547 Group: Members Member #1,183 Joined: Mar 27, 2013	Chimps beating binturong Stupid people laugh at it for some reason Edited by Wombatman, Jun 7 2015, 09:56 PM.



Full Throttle	Jun 12 2015, 07:03 AM Post #680
Apex Predator Posts: 3,592 Group: Members Member #199 Joined: Feb 19, 2012



Ceratodromeus	Jun 12 2015, 07:16 AM Post #681
Aspiring herpetologist Posts: 7,449 Group: Members Member #2,105 Joined: Jan 21, 2014



Full Throttle	Jun 16 2015, 03:58 AM Post #682
Apex Predator Posts: 3,592 Group: Members Member #199 Joined: Feb 19, 2012



Taipan	Jun 16 2015, 05:00 PM Post #683
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	http://news.softpedia.com/news/Viral-Photo-Shows-Brave-Raccoon-Riding-an-Alligator-484327.shtml#sgal_0



Ceratodromeus	Jun 18 2015, 05:07 AM Post #684
Aspiring herpetologist Posts: 7,449 Group: Members Member #2,105 Joined: Jan 21, 2014	Some sort of toad takes on a snake:



Nordred	Jun 18 2015, 10:52 AM Post #685
Herbivore Posts: 599 Group: Members Member #2,452 Joined: Apr 27, 2014	A lot of "animal cruelty" i see in this topic



Grimace	Jun 18 2015, 12:49 PM Post #686
Kleptoparasite Posts: 2,288 Group: Members Member #2,170 Joined: Feb 11, 2014	Nordred Jun 18 2015, 10:52 AM A lot of "animal cruelty" i see in this topic where?



maker	Jun 18 2015, 01:10 PM Post #687
Apex Predator Posts: 3,537 Group: Members Member #2,829 Joined: Sep 29, 2014	Multiple lions in small metal cages, muzzled and gloved bears in cages being forced to fight unnaturally, etc.



1977marc	Jun 18 2015, 07:16 PM Post #688
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 325 Group: Members Member #30 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	Gowie male ( Lamula) smacking a hyena around and chasing it away from his kill. Lamula is a good sized , athletic build prime male leopard in the Sabi Sands, 70-75 kg estimation. This guy has orange eyes. Gowrie male He is holding a territory but not before Tingana moved him southwards and he was really running from MR Anderson the beast from the Sabi Sands. Bu this guy is no walk over as you can see, smacking a hyene around.. http://blog.londolozi.com/2015/06/hyena-vs-leopard-our-national-geographic-moment/



Ceratodromeus	Jun 19 2015, 08:54 AM Post #689
Aspiring herpetologist Posts: 7,449 Group: Members Member #2,105 Joined: Jan 21, 2014	Python takes a mongoose: Might wanna mute the music



VenomousDragon	Jun 21 2015, 06:59 PM Post #690
Omnivore Posts: 1,648 Group: Members Member #484 Joined: Jul 31, 2012	Young rottweiler makes unwilling playmate out of a doe. https://youtu.be/eIDf4y1gG6c Edited by VenomousDragon, Jun 21 2015, 07:01 PM.



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