Saltwater Croc kills Sunderban Tiger*

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Saltwater Croc kills Sunderban Tiger*
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 12 2012, 01:28 AM (6,082 Views)
DinosaurMichael	Jan 12 2012, 01:28 AM Post #1
Apex Predator Posts: 6,721 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: Jan 6, 2012	Croc kills tiger after night-long duel TNN Aug 10, 2011, 04.32am IST Croc kills tiger after night-long duel KOLKATA: Some time on Monday evening, two of the most feared predators of the Sunderbans clashed in a battle of claws and fangs. It was a fight to the death and it lasted all night. As daylight broke on Tuesday, the carcass of a tigress was found on the banks of a creek with a 14-foot-long crocodile guarding the kill. Wildlife experts say this is the first such documented case in the Sunderbans. Though crocodiles and tigers do come in contact this is the first time that a crocodile has stalked and hunted a tiger in the mangroves. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-10/flora-fauna/29871235_1_crocodile-subrat-mukherjee-sunderbans-tiger-reserve Started by Panzerdivision



Im Batman1	Jul 2 2015, 07:06 PM Post #2
Unicellular Organism Posts: 7 Group: Members Member #3,441 Joined: Jun 25, 2015	could have quite easily been the other way round in shallow and or on land



maker	Jul 2 2015, 07:21 PM Post #3
Apex Predator Posts: 3,522 Group: Members Member #2,829 Joined: Sep 29, 2014	Nope, Sunderbans tigers are just slightly larger than Sunda and Southeast Asian tigers, a fully grown saltie outweighs the tiger at least by twice twice, if not more. Edited by maker, Jul 2 2015, 07:23 PM.



Sleipnir	Jul 4 2015, 01:48 AM Post #4
Steed of the Deathless Posts: 1,666 Group: Members Member #2,850 Joined: Oct 10, 2014	Sundarbans Tigers are relatively small tigers anyway.



pckts	Jul 7 2015, 06:42 AM Post #5
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 340 Group: Members Member #864 Joined: Nov 28, 2012	It happens, especially talking about a smaller species of Tiger and it being a tigress as well. Machli killed a 14'er but she was an Indian Bengal from Ranth. so obviously a much larger tigress, Sunderban females avg. around 80kg's and machlis daughter T18 weighed 180kg so that is a serious size difference between the two. Either way, both are effective predators, give one the upper hand and the other is most certainly in deep trouble. Edited by pckts, Jul 7 2015, 06:45 AM.



Siegfried	Jul 9 2015, 11:04 AM Post #6
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 52 Group: Members Member #3,030 Joined: Dec 30, 2014	The crocodile most likely took advantage of a good ambush situation.



Black Ice	Jul 9 2015, 02:00 PM Post #7
Drom King Posts: 13,146 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	This was already posted a year ago iirc



blaze	Jul 9 2015, 02:13 PM Post #8
Kleptoparasite Posts: 2,427 Group: Members Member #365 Joined: Jun 9, 2012	@pckts 14ft for that crocodile is an obvious exaggeration when you look at the photographs, the tiger even appears to have a greater head-body length. I say no larger than 11ft.



Ceratodromeus	Jul 9 2015, 05:31 PM Post #9
Aspiring herpetologist Posts: 5,900 Group: Moderator Member #2,105 Joined: Jan 21, 2014	Worth noting 2- 2.5 matter muggers are already classified as "huge", and I cannot find anything in the literature supporting C. Palustris reaching 14ft.



pckts	Jul 11 2015, 03:14 AM Post #10
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 340 Group: Members Member #864 Joined: Nov 28, 2012	blaze Jul 9 2015, 02:13 PM @pckts 14ft for that crocodile is an obvious exaggeration when you look at the photographs, the tiger even appears to have a greater head-body length. I say no larger than 11ft. Female tigers can be up to 10ft or so total length head to tail, Machli was a large Tigress as well, that croc seems longer than her. So for you to say "obvious exaggeration" is to harsh. As you can see, the croc still has its entire head length and its tail extends past the tigers tail so I think 14' is a pretty good estimate for that croc. If I were estimating I would say, Machli Total length is close to 10' the tails look to be pretty close to each other, but the crocs head is still past. So assuming a mugger croc skull are 3' I guess, I would guess 13'. And for a croc to be brave enough to attempt to steal a kill away from a mother Tiger with cubs, it must be a large croc who has become extremely confident. Ceratodromeus Jul 9 2015, 05:31 PM Worth noting 2- 2.5 matter muggers are already classified as "huge", and I cannot find anything in the literature supporting C. Palustris reaching 14ft. Off wiki so take it for what its worth but still "Old, mature males can get much larger, at up to 4 to 5 m (13 to 16 ft). The weight of a large male can be up to 200 to 300 kg (440 to 660 lb) or even in excess of 450 kg (990 lb).[11] Although individuals exceeding 4.3 m (14 ft) are exceptionally rare, the largest Mugger on record measured a huge 5.2 m (17 ft) in length.[15] This specimen is estimated to have weighed approximately 700 kg (1,500 lb).[11] Statistical data on this species is rather poor. The largest specimen in the British Museum measures 3.7 m " Edited by pckts, Jul 11 2015, 03:46 AM.



Drift	Jul 11 2015, 01:40 PM Post #11
Herbivore Posts: 952 Group: Members Member #71 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	Sleipnir Jul 4 2015, 01:48 AM Sundarbans Tigers are relatively small tigers anyway. Agreed,Exceptionally small members of a species don't make for spectacular stories once slain by another creature imo.



bitisgabonica	Jul 17 2015, 02:45 PM Post #12
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 278 Group: Members Member #222 Joined: Mar 4, 2012	i ahve seen Giant muggers reaching arund 15 foot in Croc Bank in Chennai,India



blaze	Jul 17 2015, 05:16 PM Post #13
Kleptoparasite Posts: 2,427 Group: Members Member #365 Joined: Jun 9, 2012	@pckts It's really hard to judge anything from that video, we never see them from a reasonable angle, are these photos a different incident? Link Link If not then I reiterate what I said, that croc has a similar head-body length to the tigress, they look similar in size, but it has a long tail so maybe 12ft but that's just an extra foot of tail compared to my previous estimate. Edited by blaze, Jul 17 2015, 05:17 PM.



Taipan	Jul 17 2015, 10:58 PM Post #14
Administrator Posts: 14,494 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	blaze Jul 17 2015, 05:16 PM @pckts It's really hard to judge anything from that video, we never see them from a reasonable angle, are these photos a different incident? Link Link If not then I reiterate what I said, that croc has a similar head-body length to the tigress, they look similar in size, but it has a long tail so maybe 12ft but that's just an extra foot of tail compared to my previous estimate. I messaged Jagdeep Rajput - they are the same tigress Machli, so it would appear to be the same incident. https://www.facebook.com/jagdeepwild



blaze	Jul 21 2015, 03:56 AM Post #15
Kleptoparasite Posts: 2,427 Group: Members Member #365 Joined: Jun 9, 2012	Thanks! So that settles it then, the croc can't be 14 ft.



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