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| At what size do felids and canids become deadly | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 12 2012, 02:57 AM (6,272 Views) | |
| DinosaurMichael | Jan 12 2012, 02:57 AM Post #1 |
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At what size does a felid and a canid become capable of killing the average adult man? Now, in order to make this generalization, we need to generalize overall canid and felid builds. Thoughts? I think a felids become deadly at 50lbs and canids maybe a bit heavier. Started by Sicilianu |
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| ShadowPredator | Jan 12 2012, 08:04 AM Post #2 |
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Accually I think canids and felids can become deadly at the same size due to a canines more deadly jaws |
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| populator135 | Jan 13 2012, 03:36 AM Post #3 |
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For canines I would say when they reach or surpass the size of a large pitbull. For cats, around the size of a bobcat. |
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| Sicilianu | Jan 13 2012, 04:22 AM Post #4 |
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Yes, I agree. Felids at the size of a bobcat or a CL are potentially deadly, between 40-50 lbs. I think canids become deadly at 60-70lbs. |
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| Vita | Jan 13 2012, 04:34 AM Post #5 |
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Generally, large breeds are the most deadly. Especially if they have been bred and trained as man stoppers. I guess it would appear that pit bulls are more deadly but most of victims have been children and the elderly. Even I, a grown woman could defend herself from a 50 pound dog.
Edited by Vita, Jan 13 2012, 04:34 AM.
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| Vivec | Apr 29 2013, 06:45 AM Post #6 |
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At about 30+ Kg Canids and Felines start to become able to kill and adult humans, and for a child animals the size of a Caracal or Coyote can threaten 8-13 year old children.
Edited by Vivec, Apr 29 2013, 06:45 AM.
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| Cat | Apr 29 2013, 06:49 AM Post #7 |
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The jaws of big cats are 'pound x pound' deadlier. Anyway, IMHO there is too much difference beween species/breeds to have a general answer to this question. |
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| Vivec | Apr 29 2013, 06:53 AM Post #8 |
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So Leopards jaws are stronger than a Wolves or AWD at similar weights? |
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| Full Throttle | Apr 29 2013, 07:25 AM Post #9 |
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I'd say 30 kg for both to really be considered a threat, though there are many variables depending on the capabilities of the human and the area the animal attacks, pitbulls which rarely top 50 pounds have killed adult men before. Generally speaking though, I'd say 30kg and above is the danger size for cats and canids to cause life threatening injuries to an average adult human. |
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| Black Ice | Apr 29 2013, 07:38 AM Post #10 |
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You have that backwards friend. A wolfs/awds bite is far more damaging than either a cougar or leopards. |
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| FelinePowah | Apr 29 2013, 07:54 AM Post #11 |
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But the Leopard or cougar has a far better chance at being able to bite somewhere that is far more vulnerable. |
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| Wyvax | Apr 29 2013, 07:58 AM Post #12 |
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I think that 50 pounds or so is about right for a feline, whereas for a canine maybe 70 to 80 pounds. The only reason that I believe felines can get away with it at smaller sizes is that they tend to ambush and they always, always go for the throat for a kill. Dogs on the other hand know that the throat is ideal, but will go for the whatever they can latch on when they can't reach it, arm, leg, groin, ear, etc., particularly nasty. This makes cats more efficient killers per se. But not more efficient fighters. If I was forced to face off against either a 120 pound mountain lion or a 120 pound wolf, I'd rather fight the cat. Granted I'd be bloody and scratched all over but I'd rather deal with the less debilitating bites of a cat then the thrashing, ripping, bites that dogs like to do. |
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| Black Ice | Apr 29 2013, 07:59 AM Post #13 |
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Why did you quote me? Nothing you said has anything to do with my post. Edited by Black Ice, Apr 29 2013, 07:59 AM.
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| Vivec | Apr 29 2013, 07:59 AM Post #14 |
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The neck? Wolves bite at the neck and head, so really how can the cat have more bite options? Mainly Jaguars bite the skull. |
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| Black Ice | Apr 29 2013, 08:01 AM Post #15 |
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THANK YOU! Glad I'm not the only one that thinks like that! Added wolves eat you alive whereas puma don't. |
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