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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 21 2012, 06:50 AM (1,212 Views) | |
| Cat | Jan 21 2012, 06:50 AM Post #1 |
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Hey brothers and sisters, I'm reposting aone of my entries from the old forum that I think is quite important (life saving I'd say... )WARNING: contains spoilers! (even if I would be grateful if I had read such a posting so I would have avoided wasting 110 min of my life) I watched Red Dawn (1984, directed by John Milius) yesterday - fortunately I got it from a friend, so I didn't spend one cent IMO it deserves a serious position as candidate for worst war movie ever. The only positive aspect is the spirit of the movie - trying to foster patriotic feelings and the will to defend one's own indipendence and freedom. Unfortunately the result is only to foster ridicule - except maybe for children or teenage audience. The plot is totally absurd and unrealistic, the script bad, and the characters are so stereotyped and unlikely that is almost painful to watch them. The background doesn't make any sense. Ok, it was not impossible that NATO had broken down, Mexico been swept by revolution and USA ended up without allies (apart from Britain and China, that in the movie is absurdily dismissed as a joke: yeah, 600 million surviving angry Chinese with atomic weapons on the USSR borders don't count right? ) But, c'mon, the Russians and Cubans sneak an invasion force on charter planes and mass on the Mexican border totally unnoticed, Nicaraguan saboteurs infiltrate the US and take out the SAC command (apparently Milius never heard about NORAD.)... And the Soviets atom bomb Washington DC and other big cities without causing a massive retaliation... Even more absurd is the reaction of the carachters. Paras land suddenly in a small town in the middle of f....g Colorado. Nobody know who they are and how they arrived there. The US defense is misteriously absent except for a lone chopper, which, even without SAC command, is absurd. No warnings from the media, nobody has an idea what's going on. A group of teenagers just run out of school, pack and excape to the mountains, without trying to know what's going on, to contact the authorities, flee to some other town etc. They stay there for like one month and finally discover that the US has been invaded from Mexico and the strait of Bering (right, the Russians, with their lousy fleet bring a huge mechanised force through an area that it's totally unsuitable for heavy troops and logistic support, then cross thousands miles of mountains and forests in Alaska and Canada to invade the continental US... ). Then the high school teenagers turn into a bunch of Rambos and start guerrilla warfare against trained soldiers with heavy weapons. The rest of the movie is a collection of unrealistic combat scenes where Russian paras and spetznats, KGB and Cuban veterans from Angola are just are little more than sitting targets for the teenagers, who in a heartbeat learn how to use and maintain Russian weapons, of which they apparently have an unending supply. Teenager girs become elite machine gunners. In one scene they flee on horseback from frigging attack helicopters armed with chain guns and rockets! Wonder why the US spent so much money on Abrams and Bradleys and MLRS, they could just have resurrected the 7th Cavalry on horseback instead and wiped out all the Warsaw Pact. in the end scene, two of the teenagers wipe out the enemy headquarter, then walk away wounded and sit dying on the outskirt of their home town, apparantly after having exterminated all the enemy soldiers, since nobody go after them (except for the humane Cuban commander, who refrain to shoot them and is apparently the only survivor of the enemy force). I always thought that Rambo movies and Commando were so unrealistic to be ridiculous and even boring, with scores of enemies falling like pins without being able to harm the heroes, who seemed to enjoy the magical property to deflect bullets and grenades. But at least Stallone and Arnie in those movies were top special forces guys. These teenagers are so unreal and unbeliavable that they could have inserted Batman or some Predator in the plot without making it less fantastic... I have nothing against propaganda war movies - after all it was the Cold War and Americans needed to boost up their moral after the Vietnam debacle. But when a story is so childishly unrealistic and the enemy seem to be there only to show their wickedness and to sit as dumb targets for the heroes, it's totally pathetic. I read they are doing a remake in 2012, only this time it's the frigging North Koreans that invade the US!! I guess they are going to use some Kung Fu trick to fly to the continental US, since that is the only way they can ferry their archaic army over there... LOL! |
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| M4A2E4 | Jan 22 2012, 06:09 AM Post #2 |
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I really didn't like Enemy at the Gates, though the primary reason is that I read Antony Beevor's book on the battle of Stalingrad only a few weeks before watching this movie, and the historical issues were... irritating |
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| Cat | Jan 22 2012, 08:15 AM Post #3 |
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I didn't like Enemy at the Gates very much either, b/c several scenes were completely unrealistic, like the German soldiers all bunched together and firing at the Russians like 19th century riflemen. And in general all old movies from the 50s and 60s about WWII are crappy, showing German soldiers as hysterical pathetic clowns, when in reality they were probably the best fighters in the world until the end of 1944. |
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| Scar | Jan 24 2012, 11:04 PM Post #4 |
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Pearl Harbor. I think it's more along the lines that I consider Ben Affleck horrible in anything but a comedic role. |
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