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White Rhinoceros v African Forest Elephant
Topic Started: Jan 28 2012, 01:31 PM (22,339 Views)
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White Rhinoceros - Ceratotherium simum
The White Rhinoceros or Square-lipped rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum) is one of the five species of rhinoceros that still exist. It has a wide mouth used for grazing and is the most social of all rhino species. White Rhinoceroses are found in grassland and savannah habitat. Herbivore grazers that eat grass, preferring the shortest grains, the White Rhinoceros is one of the largest pure grazers. White Rhinoceroses produce sounds which include a panting contact call, grunts and snorts during courtship, squeals of distress, and deep bellows or growls when threatened. Threat displays (in males mostly) include wiping its horn on the ground and a head-low posture with ears back, combined with snarl threats and shrieking if attacked. The White Rhinoceros is quick and agile and can run 50 km/h (31 mph). The White Rhinoceros is the world's largest land mammal after the three species of elephant. It has a massive body and large head, a short neck and broad chest. The head and body length is 3.4 to 4.2 m (11 to 14 ft), with the tail adding another 37 to 71 cm (15 to 28 in). Shoulder height is 1.5 to 2 m (4 ft 10 in to 6 ft 7 in). Weight in this animal typically ranges from 1,360 to 3,630 kg (3,000 to 8,000 lb). The male, averaging 2,300 kg (5,100 lb) is slightly heavier than the female, at an average of 1,700 kg (3,700 lb). The largest recorded White Rhinoceros was about 4,500 kg (9,900 lb). On its snout it has two horn-like growths, one behind the other. These are made of solid keratin, in which they differ from the horns of bovids (cattle and their relatives), which are keratin with a bony core, and deer antlers, which are solid bone. The front horn is larger and averages 90 cm (35 in) in length, reaching as much as 150 cm (59 in).

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African Forest Elephant - Loxodonta cyclotis
The African Forest Elephant (Loxodonta cyclotis) is a forest dwelling elephant of the Congo Basin. Formerly considered either a synonym or a subspecies of the African Savanna Elephant (Loxodonta africana), a 2010 study established that the two are distinct species. These forest-dwelling elephants are smaller and darker than their savanna relatives and have smaller and characteristically rounded ears. The upper lip and nose are elongated into a trunk that is more hairy than that of the savanna elephants'. The male African Forest Elephant rarely exceed 2.5 metres (8 ft) in height, while the African Bush Elephant is usually over 3 meters (just under 10 feet) and sometimes almost 4 meters (13 ft) tall. With regard to the number of toenails: the African Bush Elephant normally has 4 toenails on the frontfoot and 3 on the hindfoot, the African Forest Elephant normally has 5 toenails on the frontfoot and 4 on the hindfoot (like the Asian elephant), but hybrids between the two species occur.
Male shoulder height: up to 2.5 m
Weight 2.7 - 6 tonnes

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African Forest elephant vs White rhino
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Sep 12 2016, 11:31 AM
if i am correct isn't that forest elephant in the picture tossing buffalo in air.
Looks like a bush elephant in the savanna to me, although the buffalo looks like a forest buffalo. Source of the photos?
i found it on google images :D thanks for telling me.
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is this african forest elephant.
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Sep 12 2016, 11:31 AM
if i am correct isn't that forest elephant in the picture tossing buffalo in air.
Looks like a bush elephant in the savanna to me, although the buffalo looks like a forest buffalo. Source of the photos?
i found it on google images :D thanks for telling me.
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is this african forest elephant.
Imy not expert on Elephants, but I think so. It's small thought.
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Sep 12 2016, 11:31 AM
if i am correct isn't that forest elephant in the picture tossing buffalo in air.
Looks like a bush elephant in the savanna to me, although the buffalo looks like a forest buffalo. Source of the photos?
i found it on google images :D thanks for telling me.
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is this african forest elephant.

These 2 photos are the main habitat for Forest & Bush Elephant. The Bush Elephant's habitat looks far similar to the photo
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Siding with the elephant. TBH, I don't see this being too much different from a rhino fighting an African Bush elephant.
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Siding with the elephant. TBH, I don't see this being too much different from a rhino fighting an African Bush elephant.
See the difference now?
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http://eofauna.deviantart.com/art/Great-extant-elephant-sculptures-398026500 .
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i found it on google images :D thanks for telling me.
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is this african forest elephant.

These 2 photos are the main habitat for Forest & Bush Elephant. The Bush Elephant's habitat looks far similar to the photo
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thats' either not an adult bush elephant or it is african forest elephant.
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Siding with the elephant. TBH, I don't see this being too much different from a rhino fighting an African Bush elephant.
See the difference now?
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http://eofauna.deviantart.com/art/Great-extant-elephant-sculptures-398026500 .
it looks to me a bit exaggeration of difference in size, No way these three will be that different^^
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is this african forest elephant.

These 2 photos are the main habitat for Forest & Bush Elephant. The Bush Elephant's habitat looks far similar to the photo
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thats' either not an adult bush elephant or it is african forest elephant.
Certainly is a Juvenile bush elephant.
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it looks to me a bit exaggeration of difference in size, No way these three will be that different^^
It might seem a bit jarring, but the difference in height between forest and bush elephants can actually be around a meter.
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TBH, I don't see this being too much different from a rhino fighting an African Bush elephant.

Are you kidding? Bush elephant males are a good 4 tonnes heavier than your average forest elephant male. A male bush elephant would destroy any white rhino in existence.

Anyway, I would probably back the rhino. An average male forest elephant of 7.2ft in height weighs around 2 tonnes, and white rhino males are around 2.4 tonnes. When elephants are confronted with other large herbivores like buffalo, hippos and rhinos they often use their sheer size to bulldoze the animal over but in this fight the rhino should be a good 400kg heavier than the elephant making it impossible to "bulldoze" the rhino over.
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White Rhinoceros VS. African Forest Elephant- Elephant. Basically there's no other land animal that could beat an adult elephant, especially a bull. There's been conflicts between elephants and rhinos before, and these battles strongly favor the larger herbivore. I would back the white rhinoceros to win if these two animals were at the same size(which could be the case if the rhinoceros was up against the smaller pygmy elephant.) due to its advantages on a pound for pound basis, which would be its deadlier horn, tougher skin, and greater speed. But at normal weights the elephant is just too big. African Forest Elephant wins.
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White Rhinoceros VS. African Forest Elephant- Elephant. Basically there's no other land animal that could beat an adult elephant, especially a bull. There's been conflicts between elephants and rhinos before, and these battles strongly favor the larger herbivore. I would back the white rhinoceros to win if these two animals were at the same size(which could be the case if the rhinoceros was up against the smaller pygmy elephant.) due to its advantages on a pound for pound basis, which would be its deadlier horn, tougher skin, and greater speed. But at normal weights the elephant is just too big. African Forest Elephant wins.
You are aware the White rhino is larger than the elephant here? In conflict between elephants and rhinos it’s often between Bush elephants and White rhinos, and Bush elephant bulls are 3x the weight of Forest elephant bulls.
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White Rhinoceros VS. African Forest Elephant- Elephant. Basically there's no other land animal that could beat an adult elephant, especially a bull. There's been conflicts between elephants and rhinos before, and these battles strongly favor the larger herbivore. I would back the white rhinoceros to win if these two animals were at the same size(which could be the case if the rhinoceros was up against the smaller pygmy elephant.) due to its advantages on a pound for pound basis, which would be its deadlier horn, tougher skin, and greater speed. But at normal weights the elephant is just too big. African Forest Elephant wins.
You are aware the White rhino is larger than the elephant here? In conflict between elephants and rhinos it’s often between Bush elephants and White rhinos, and Bush elephant bulls are 3x the weight of Forest elephant bulls.
In the op, it says that the rhino is 1.3 to 3.6 tons and the elephant is 2.7 to 6 tons, so the elephant is larger...

Anyway, elephant wins at average weights. Rhino wins at equal weights.
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Siding with the elephant. TBH, I don't see this being too much different from a rhino fighting an African Bush elephant.
See the difference now? <br />Posted Image<br />http://eofauna.deviantart.com/art/Great-extant-elephant-sculptures-398026500 .
That is definitely inaccurate . . . . .
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In the op, it says that the rhino is 1.3 to 3.6 tons and the elephant is 2.7 to 6 tons, so the elephant is larger...

Just a word of advice; don’t always trust the OPs just sayin’

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That is definitely inaccurate

I sense sarcasm, but it may be more accurate than you think. The average African bush elephant bull is some 0.45 metres taller at the shoulder than an Asian elephant bull and at least 1 metre taller than a Forest elephant bull. I will scale that out for you just to give you a sense on whah that would look like.
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In the op, it says that the rhino is 1.3 to 3.6 tons and the elephant is 2.7 to 6 tons, so the elephant is larger...

Just a word of advice; don’t always trust the OPs just sayin’

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That is definitely inaccurate

I sense sarcasm, but it may be more accurate than you think. The average African bush elephant bull is some 0.45 metres taller at the shoulder than an Asian elephant bull and at least 1 metre taller than a Forest elephant bull. I will scale that out for you just to give you a sense on whah that would look like.
Can you post a source about the weight of the forest elephants pls?
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The rhino's horn is just too hard to ignore here. I'll make a visual comparison for some perspective.
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