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| Cheetah v Fila Brasileiro | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 28 2012, 02:20 PM (351 Views) | |
| Taipan | Jan 28 2012, 02:20 PM Post #1 |
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Cheetah - Acinonyx jubatus The cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus) is a large-sized feline (family Felidae) inhabiting most of Africa and parts of the Middle East. The cheetah is the only extant member of the genus Acinonyx, most notable for modifications in the species' paws. As such, it is the only felid with non-retractable claws and pads that, by their scope, disallow gripping (therefore cheetahs cannot climb vertical trees, although they are generally capable of reaching easily accessible branches). The cheetah, however, achieves by far the fastest land speed of any living animal—between 112 and 120 km/h (70 and 75 mph) in short bursts covering distances up to 500 m (1,600 ft), and has the ability to accelerate from 0 to over 100 km/h (62 mph) in three seconds. The cheetah's chest is deep and its waist is narrow. The coarse, short fur of the cheetah is tan with round black spots measuring from 2 to 3 cm (0.79 to 1.2 in) across, affording it some camouflage while hunting. There are no spots on its white underside, but the tail has spots, which merge to form four to six dark rings at the end. The tail usually ends in a bushy white tuft. The cheetah has a small head with high-set eyes. Black "tear marks" running from the corner of its eyes down the sides of the nose to its mouth keep sunlight out of its eyes and aid in hunting and seeing long distances. Although it can reach high speeds, its body cannot stand long distance running, because it is more suited to short bursts of speed. The adult cheetah weighs from 35 to 72 kg (77 to 160 lb). Its total head-and-body length is from 110 to 150 cm (43 to 59 in), while the tail can measure 60 to 84 cm (24 to 33 in) in length. Cheetahs are 66 to 94 cm (26 to 37 in) tall at the shoulder. Males tend to be slightly larger than females and have slightly bigger heads, but there is not a great variation in cheetah sizes and it is difficult to tell males and females apart by appearance alone. Compared to a similarly sized leopard, the cheetah is generally shorter-bodied, but is longer tailed and taller (it averages about 90 cm (35 in) tall) and so it appears more streamlined.  Fila Brasileiro The Fila Brasileiro is a large working breed of dog developed in Brazil. The Fila Brasileiro is a Molosser breed with large bones and loose skin. The breed standard requires males to be between 65 and 75 cm (25.5 inches to 29.5 inches) high at the withers and weigh at least 50 kg (110 lbs). Females are slightly smaller and are expected to be 60 to 70 cm (23.5 inches to 27.5 inches) high at the withers and weigh at least 40 kg (90 lbs). They have a rectangular build and though they are massive, their natural agility is apparent. The head is big and heavy with a deep muzzle. The ears are large, thick, tapered and either droop or fold back exposing the interior, depending on mood. Neck and back are well muscled, the chest is broad and deep. Unlike the vast majority of canines, the croup is higher than the withers. Legs are heavily boned.  _____________________________________________________________________
Edited by Taipan, Jan 28 2012, 02:20 PM.
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| Vita | Jan 28 2012, 02:37 PM Post #2 |
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Mismatch in favor of the dog.
Edited by Vita, Jan 28 2012, 02:38 PM.
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| Mauro20 | Jan 28 2012, 11:46 PM Post #3 |
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This is not a mismatch. The fila weighs at least 50 kg (110 lbs) and the cheetah weighs 35 to 72 kg (77 to 160 lb), according to Wikipedia. I think the dog will win, the Fila Brasileiro was used to hunt big cats such as jaguars (obviously they worked in packs, but a cheetah is much smaller than a jaguar). In addition, the dog seems stronger and more robust, albeit with a possible disadvantage in size. |
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| ShadowPredator | Jan 29 2012, 01:48 AM Post #4 |
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Dog takes this, |
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| Mauro20 | Jan 29 2012, 02:00 AM Post #5 |
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The practice of hunting jaguars and pumas using Filas is very old and is documented in pictures and texts.
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| Vita | Jan 29 2012, 05:53 AM Post #6 |
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What exactly can the cheetah do to the dog? The "grappling" argument can't even be applied here. |
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| Bull and Terrier | Jan 29 2012, 10:08 AM Post #7 |
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Cheetah is one of the most underestimated animals on this forum, but against a Fila it will loose. Not a mismatch if it is a big male, but it would still loose. |
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| Mauro20 | Jan 29 2012, 10:46 AM Post #8 |
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Cheetahs are better fighters than you think. |
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| Tazman | Jan 29 2012, 01:56 PM Post #9 |
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This is a mismatch. The cheetah is not going to win, ever. |
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| Mauro20 | Jan 29 2012, 09:53 PM Post #10 |
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There are instances of cheetahs attacking hyenas and other animals alike. Remember that a hyena is much more resistant and has a stronger bite than any dog. I think the Fila is going to win, but the poor cheetah is very underrated. |
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| Gregoire | Jan 30 2012, 01:23 AM Post #11 |
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At parity 60/40 Fila. |
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| Mauro20 | Jan 31 2012, 02:50 AM Post #12 |
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Many members say that this is a mismatch, but do not present arguments. Why? Why is the cheetah can not have a fair fight with the dog? The size is compatible, and felines in general have natural weapons more effective than dogs. Five people voted for the cheetah, so there is a considerable amount of people who have an idea contrary to all who posted here. |
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| Vita | Jan 31 2012, 08:45 AM Post #13 |
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The cheetah isn't exactly well adapted for fighting. Their claws aren't as menacing as other cats. They wouldn't be able to "grapple" the dog into position for a bite as effectively as other felines. Actually, compared to a dog like the fila, the fila would be the superior grappler as it can better make use of its jaws. Speaking of biting the cheetah's skull isn't as impressive as other "similar" sized cats.  Observing its skull, it has a fairly weak bite and small canines.  The cheetah would have to get a throat bite on the dog because it doesn't have the jaw power to bite through its skull. Its jaws are also not well suited for biting back effectively. I just do not see how the cheetah would have much of a chance. To my knowledge there isn't any accounts of LGD being killed by cheetahs. Edited by Vita, Jan 31 2012, 08:46 AM.
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| Mauro20 | Jan 31 2012, 09:32 AM Post #14 |
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In fact, one bite at the neck would not be very effective. The Fila Brasileiro has very loose skin in this region, which would hinder a fatal bite. Observe the necks of these filas:    But these fangs aren't so small, in my opinion. Obviously the skull of the cheetah is not as impressive as the other big cats, but it seems more powerful than the skull of a domestic dog:  The claws of the cheetah can not kill the dog, that's a fact. But they are certainly capable of blinding the Fila Brasileiro, and leave it incapacitated. |
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| mohamad | Feb 1 2012, 11:44 PM Post #15 |
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the dog have powerful weapons but cheetah is a wild animals and good predator and this is an advantage for cheetah.s i think that at same weight 5.5/10 for cheetah. what do you think ? |
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