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| African Forest Buffalo v Moose | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 29 2012, 12:49 PM (219 Views) | |
| Taipan | Jan 29 2012, 12:49 PM Post #1 |
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African Forest Buffalo - Syncerus caffer nanus The African buffalo, affalo, nyati, Mbogo or Cape buffalo (Syncerus caffer) is a large African bovine. It is not closely related to the slightly larger wild Asian water buffalo, but its ancestry remains unclear. Owing to its unpredictable nature which makes it highly dangerous to humans, it has not been domesticated, unlike its Asian counterpart, the domestic Asian water buffalo. The African Forest Buffalo (Syncerus caffer nanus) is smaller than the Cape Buffalo, with horns that curves out backwards and upwards. Usually weighing 265–565 kilograms (580–1,250 lb), they are reddish brown in color. Its native habitat is the equatorial forest found in central and western Africa, and its diet consists primarily of grasses, twigs, and young shoots. African Forest Buffalo are sought after by hunters for their meat and horns. In the wild, leopards are its primary predator.  Moose (Eurasian Elk) - Alces alces The moose (North America) or Eurasian elk (Europe) (Alces alces) is the largest extant species in the deer family. Moose are distinguished by the palmate antlers of the males; other members of the family have antlers with a dendritic ("twig-like") configuration. Moose typically inhabit boreal and mixed deciduous forests of the Northern Hemisphere in temperate to subarctic climates. Moose lack upper front teeth, but have eight sharp incisors on the lower jaw. On average, an adult moose stands 1.4–2.1 m (4.6–6.9 ft) high at the shoulder, which is more than a foot higher than the next largest deer on average, the Elk. Males (or "bulls") weigh 380–700 kg (840–1,500 lb) and females (or "cows") typically weigh 200–360 kg (440–790 lb).[50] The head-and-body length is 2.4–3.2 m (7.9–10 ft), with the vestigal tail adding only a further 5–12 cm (2.0–4.7 in). The largest of all the races is the Alaskan subspecies (A. a. gigas), which can stand over 2.1 m (7 ft) at the shoulder, has a span across the antlers of 1.8 m (6 ft) and averages 634.5 kg (1,396 lbs) in males and 478 kg (1,052 lbs) in females. Typically, however, the antlers of a mature bull are between 1.2 m (3.9 ft) and 1.5 m (4.9 ft). The largest confirmed size for this species was a bull shot at the Yukon River in September 1897 that weighed 820 kg (1,800 lb) and measured 2.33 m (7.6 ft) high at the shoulder. Behind only the bison, the Moose is the second largest land animal in both North America and Europe.  _________________________________________________________________________________________________
Savannah type buffaloes weigh 500 to 910 kg (1,100 to 2,000 lb), with males, normally larger than females, reaching the upper weight range." I made it the "Forest" subspecies of Cape Buffalo to even the weights up! |
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| DinosaurMichael | Jan 29 2012, 12:53 PM Post #2 |
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Thanks Taipan. Anyway I vote for the Moose since it's antlers look like it could do much more damage. However the Buffalo won't go down easy and will put up a really good fight.
Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jan 29 2012, 12:56 PM.
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| ShadowPredator | Jan 29 2012, 12:57 PM Post #3 |
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Lol buffalo pic; anyway, I think it would win, it's more powerful, horns are more damaging at close range ect. |
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| GreenDragon | Jan 29 2012, 02:25 PM Post #4 |
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The buffalo should win handily. Horns are better then those blunt antlers... |
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| Cephalopholis | Jan 29 2012, 02:45 PM Post #5 |
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I favor the moose. Though the buffalo horns are sharper they are ill equipt to grapple the broader span of a bull moose. The moose may appear a bit top heavy but they take a very low wide stance when sparing. |
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| 221extra | Jan 29 2012, 05:10 PM Post #6 |
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From what I've read African Forest buffalo's max out at 320kgs, a Bull Moose has a big size advantage, I see the Moose winning easily. And by the way the Moose has very sharp tines on the antlers, while the buffalo has blunt horns that are positioned awkwardly, which would handicap it even more in the fight then it already is. |
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| SameerPrehistorica | Jan 29 2012, 07:42 PM Post #7 |
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Moose would win.. |
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| Taurus | Jan 30 2012, 03:07 AM Post #8 |
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I favor the buffalo over moose as I said the moose is too tall and the antlers are ill-suited to goring. Also have board antlers are terrible for interspecies conflicts, especially against bovids, big cats, wolves or large bears. Also young elephants have killed by these forest buffalos has recorded suggests that the buffalo shouldn't have any problems to gore a moose given the fact elephants has thick skin. The buffalo cow in picture wasn't good specimen as it is not an average looking specimen. |
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| Cephalopholis | Jan 30 2012, 04:06 AM Post #9 |
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 This might give you some idea how low moose like to get when fighting. Notice his broad stance and his nose is inches from the ground. I don't think height is an issue here. Could you provide us wih a photo of a more impressive buffalo specimen please? |
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| 221extra | Jan 30 2012, 09:19 AM Post #10 |
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Explain to me how the Forest buffalo can overcome the huge size difference? And those young elephants were likely very young & helpless, I fail to see how killing baby elephants is impressive. |
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| Gregoire | Feb 12 2012, 05:27 PM Post #11 |
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I think moos 60/40. |
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| tigerburningbright | Feb 12 2012, 08:00 PM Post #12 |
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Moose fairly easily. |
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| Nothing00 | Feb 16 2012, 01:10 PM Post #13 |
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I say Moose 6.5/10. He's bigger and those antlers carry more tines (can cause more puncture wounds) and greater weight behind them. This buffalo's backward facing horns are ill-suited to goring. I'm not sure how aggressive this buffalo species is but I do know rutting moose can be quite combative (a healthy bull moose can fend off an entire wolf pack) |
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