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| Scottish Wildcat v Red Fox | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 29 2012, 01:27 PM (332 Views) | |
| Taipan | Jan 29 2012, 01:27 PM Post #1 |
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Scottish Wildcat - Felis sylvestris grampia By appearance the Scottish wildcat resembles a very muscular domestic tabby, the coat is made up of well defined brown and black stripes and usually has a ruffled appearance due to its thickness. The gait is more like that of a big cat and the face and jaw are wider and more heavy set than the domestic cat. Most apparent is the beautiful tail; thick and ringed with perfect bands of black and brown ending in a blunt black tip. The Scottish form is the largest in the wildcat family with males typically between 6-9kg (13-17lb) and females 5-7kg (11-15lb), around 50% larger than the average domestic cat. Fossil examples measuring 4 feet from nose to tail have been found; such a cat could have weighed around 14kg (30lb). Their body is an evolutionary perfection; eighteen razor sharp retractable claws and rotating wrists for gripping prey and climbing trees, immensely powerful thigh muscles for 30mph sprinting, the ability to fall from the highest pine tree, land on its feet and walk away unscathed, incredible stealth, balance and agility all wrapped in a thick, camoflaged and religiously cleaned coat with one downy layer to keep in the warm and another outer layer to keep out the rain and cold. ![]() Red Fox - Vulpes vulpes The red fox (Vulpes vulpes) is the largest of the true foxes, as well as being the most geographically spread member of the Carnivora, being distributed across the entire northern hemisphere from the Arctic Circle to North Africa, Central America and the steppes of Asia. Its range has increased alongside human expansion, having been introduced to Australia, where it is considered harmful to native mammal and bird populations. Red foxes have elongated bodies and relatively short limbs. The tail, which is longer than half the body length (70% of head and body length), is long, fluffy and reaches the ground when in a standing position. Red foxes are the largest species of the genus Vulpes. However, relative to dimensions, red foxes are much lighter than similarly sized dogs of the Canis genus. Their limb bones, for example, weigh 30% less per unit area of bone than expected for similarly sized dogs. They display significant individual, sexual, age and geographical variation in size. On average, adults measure 35–50 cm (14–20 in) high at the shoulder and 45 to 90 cm (18 to 35 in) in body length with tails measuring 30 to 63 in (760 to 1,600 mm). The ears measure 7.7–12.5 cm (3–5 in) and the hind feet 12–18.5 cm (5–7 in). They weigh 2.2 to 14 kg (4.9 to 31 lb), with vixens typically weighing 15–20% less than males. ![]() _____________________________________________________________________________
I made it Scottish Wildcat to even the weights up a bit! |
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| ShadowPredator | Jan 29 2012, 01:28 PM Post #2 |
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Very interesting, im not sure on this |
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| Rodentsofunusualsize | Jan 29 2012, 01:32 PM Post #3 |
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50/50. Also, what the hell is with the Wildcat description? It portrays the Scottish Wild Cat has some form of Feline Jesus. |
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| Taipan | Jan 29 2012, 01:56 PM Post #4 |
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What part isn't true? |
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| Rodentsofunusualsize | Jan 29 2012, 01:59 PM Post #5 |
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"Their body is an evolutionary perfection; eighteen razor sharp retractable claws and rotating wrists for gripping prey and climbing trees, immensely powerful thigh muscles for 30mph sprinting, the ability to fall from the highest pine tree, land on its feet and walk away unscathed, incredible stealth, balance and agility all wrapped in a thick, camoflaged and religiously cleaned coat with one downy layer to keep in the warm and another outer layer to keep out the rain and cold." Please, that is the most biased passage I have ever laid eyes on. It reads like it was written by FP. EDIT: On topic, my vote goes to the Wild Cat, it is one of the only small wild cats that seem impressive and like they can take a strong canid at parity. On the flip side, Foxes are the opposite of that, Red Foxes are one of the weaker canids, at least in my experience. Edited by Rodentsofunusualsize, Jan 29 2012, 02:02 PM.
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| ShadowPredator | Jan 29 2012, 02:01 PM Post #6 |
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No it's more bias than anything FP could've posted even
Edited by ShadowPredator, Jan 29 2012, 02:02 PM.
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| Cephalopholis | Jan 29 2012, 02:07 PM Post #7 |
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Though written in a fanciful manner it does sum up the facts pretty well. Wild cat gets my vote. |
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| GreenDragon | Jan 29 2012, 02:14 PM Post #8 |
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I don't necessarily think the Wild Cat is an impressively built small cat, as the thick fur gives it a more robust appearance. Call me crazy, but I'm most impressed with the caracal; kind of reminds me of a cougar. -- Back on topic, I honestly don't know who would win. Foxes aren't very impressive canines, but they may have a slight size advantage. Is the Red Foxes bite strong, weak, or moderate? |
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| Taipan | Jan 29 2012, 02:19 PM Post #9 |
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Yes, but which parts are wrong? If they are wrong, I'll remove them. |
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| Hyaenodon | Jan 29 2012, 02:19 PM Post #10 |
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Fox cause its my fave
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| Vita | Jan 29 2012, 04:21 PM Post #11 |
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Canidae & Hyaenidae enthusiast
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| FelisRex | Jan 29 2012, 05:22 PM Post #12 |
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A caracal is not a wild cat, its in a completely different genus and is several times bigger. Wildcats are the felines in the genus felis along with the domestic cat. As for this conflict neither species is well equipped to kill the other and both would be detoured long before it came to that. If pressed the wildcat is better equipped. Wildcats have been documented taking animals as large as young deer and sheep and while reclusive are very aggressive and tenacious when it comes to conflicts. A fox is really more on par with a domestic cat, and even in those situations is usually intimidated and flees before more aggressive felines, just search cat vs fox on YouTube. |
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| Lycaon | Jan 29 2012, 06:14 PM Post #13 |
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I vote for the cat until you match it up against the largest of foxes. Some red foxes can probably overwhelm the cat because of a significant size advantage.
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| GreenDragon | Jan 30 2012, 03:09 AM Post #14 |
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Yes, I know that the caracal is not in the same genus. However, it is considered a "small cat", and in my opinion is one that I am impressed by. Thats all. Leaning toward the cat, but still looking for any information on the foxes bite. |
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| Cephalopholis | Jan 30 2012, 03:37 AM Post #15 |
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I do not doubt that is a big fox, but that picture is a forced perspective and the person holding the it looks like they my be a small child. Edited by Cephalopholis, Jan 30 2012, 03:37 AM.
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