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Who wins?
African Bush Elephant 34 (36.2%)
Tyrannosaurus rex 60 (63.8%)
Total Votes: 94
African Bush Elephant v Tyrannosaurus rex
Topic Started: Jan 29 2012, 01:48 PM (29,029 Views)
Taipan
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African Bush Elephant - Loxodonta africana
African elephants are the heaviest land animal, and the second tallest in the Animal Kingdom. They are a sexually dimorphic species; males appear larger than females. The height of a bull at his shoulder is about twelve feet (about 3.75 m), when the female’s height is nine feet (about 3 m). They have enormous ears, each measuring about four feet (120-125 cm) across. They have a unique nose that is simply a long, boneless trunk extending from the upper lip. The trunk usually measures about five feet long (about 150 cm) and weighs around 300 pounds (about 135 kg). The two finger-like projections on the tip are so dexterous they can pick a blade of grass. The trunk itself is so strong it is capable of lifting 600 pounds (250- 275 kg). Their incisor teeth develop into tusks about 8 feet long (245-250 cm) and can weigh about 130 pounds (60 kg) each. The only other teeth they have are four molars which are replaced three times throughout their lives after the previous set wears down. African elephants have dark gray skin which is scattered with black hairs that wear off through the years. As a result the adults are mostly hairless. Their skin is about 2 1/2 inches (2-4 cm) thick, but flies, mosquitoes and parasites still penetrate it.
Adult Mass : 3600 to 6000 kg; avg. 4540 kg (7920 to 13200 lbs; avg. 9988 lbs)

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Tyrannosaurus rex
Tyrannosaurus is a genus of coelurosaurian theropod dinosaur. The species Tyrannosaurus rex (rex meaning "king" in Latin), commonly abbreviated to T. rex, is a fixture in popular culture. It lived throughout what is now western North America, with a much wider range than other tyrannosaurids. Fossils are found in a variety of rock formations dating to the Maastrichtian age of the upper Cretaceous Period, 67 to 65.5 million years ago. It was among the last non-avian dinosaurs to exist before the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event. Like other tyrannosaurids, Tyrannosaurus was a bipedal carnivore with a massive skull balanced by a long, heavy tail. Relative to the large and powerful hindlimbs, Tyrannosaurus forelimbs were small, though unusually powerful for their size, and bore two clawed digits. Although other theropods rivaled or exceeded Tyrannosaurus rex in size, it was the largest known tyrannosaurid and one of the largest known land predators. By far the largest carnivore in its environment, Tyrannosaurus rex may have been an apex predator, preying upon hadrosaurs and ceratopsians, although some experts have suggested it was primarily a scavenger. The debate over Tyrannosaurus as apex predator or scavenger is among the longest running in paleontology. Tyrannosaurus rex was one of the largest land carnivores of all time; the largest complete specimen, FMNH PR2081 ("Sue"), measured 12.8 metres (42 ft) long, and was 4.0 metres (13.1 ft) tall at the hips. Mass estimates have varied widely over the years, from more than 7.2 metric tons (7.9 short tons), to less than 4.5 metric tons (5.0 short tons), with most modern estimates ranging between 5.4 and 6.8 metric tons (6.0 and 7.5 short tons). Packard et al. (2009) tested dinosaur mass estimation procedures on elephants and concluded that dinosaur estimations are flawed and produce over-estimations; thus, the weight of Tyrannosaurus could be much less than usually estimated. Other estimations have concluded that the largest known Tyrannosaurus specimens had a weight exceeding 9 tonnes.

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GreenDragon
Jan 29 2012, 12:40 PM
Taipan, since Sanghua River Mammoth vs. T-rex was a blowout, can you please make:

African Elephant vs. T-rex
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Rashido
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T-rex, with little effort. An elephant is a helluva lot easier to kill than a trike...
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Hyaenodon
Jan 29 2012, 02:17 PM
T-rex, with little effort. An elephant is a helluva lot easier to kill than a trike...
Elephant charges the slower unagile T-Rex and knocks the comparatively ungainly bipedal theropod over and gores it to death with its tusks. Mismatch in favour of the elephant at equal weights!~ ;)
Edited by Taipan, Jan 29 2012, 02:22 PM.
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Thanks for this matchup.

I think it would be very close. The dinosaur has the ability to inflict a severe bite on the elephant, but it may be hard to get in a good position. The elephant, compared to Triceratops, is very tall with a short, thick neck. If I'm not mistaken, T-rex could raise itself up, reaching a taller height the elephant, but it won't necessarily be easy to get in a bite.

The elephant certainly has the power to kill a rex, but the one thing I question about it is its mobility. Can the elephant turn quickly if T-rex flanks it?

From my perspective, Elephants have very odd legs; long, stout, and pillar-like. To me, it looks like it wouldn't be able to turn very quickly especially when compared to a lower set animal, like a rhino or Triceratops.

Anyways, I favor T-rex 6/10 times. But I would like to hear others views. This battle is certainly a close one.
Edited by GreenDragon, Jan 29 2012, 02:26 PM.
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Do we have any evidence of tusks of the elephant being an effecive weapon?
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coherentsheaf
Jan 29 2012, 02:27 PM
Do we have any evidence of tusks of the elephant being an effecive weapon?
Yes Bulls use them to kill each other, females and other animals:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-04-28/elephant-kills-12-females-over-spurned-advances/414282


"An unusual, but not unique, situation
has arisen in HUP. African elephants, Loxodonta
africana Blumenbach, 1797, have been killing both
black (n = 5) and white rhinos (n = 58), mainly through
tusk wounds made to the shoulder and chest area."

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Source: Killing of black and white rhinoceroses by African elephants in Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Park, South Africa

An elephants body strength ansd stability is awesome!




Edited by Taipan, Jan 29 2012, 02:56 PM.
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After seeing that video I am leaning with the elephant. It could ram the t.rex and gore it but it will be no easy task
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The Largest African Bush Elephant 4.2m tall and an average elephant
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elephant wins this
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SameerPrehistorica
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Both weighs equally.Will be a good fight..... 50 / 50 ......

( Those big prehistoric elephants would beat T.Rex all time.)


Is there anyway to cancel a vote and vote again ?
Edited by SameerPrehistorica, Jan 29 2012, 07:46 PM.
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FireEel
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If both creatures existed at the same time, the elephant would be staple diet for the T.rex.
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I vote for the Elephant face to face due to better weaponry like those tusks, and not to mention it is more stable. Only way I can see T-Rex win is by ambush.
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FireEel
Jan 29 2012, 10:27 PM
If both creatures existed at the same time, the elephant would be staple diet for the T.rex.
By ambush. Face to face. It would probably be alot different.
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Jan 30 2012, 09:06 AM
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Jan 29 2012, 10:27 PM
If both creatures existed at the same time, the elephant would be staple diet for the T.rex.
By ambush. Face to face. It would probably be alot different.


Not only did the T.rex outweight all but the largest of bull elephants, it was also a very solidly-built fighter.

People tend to forget that the T.rex wasn't just an apex predator thanks to its size, it also had better weaponry and greater power than similarly-sized theropods.
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FireEel
Feb 3 2012, 11:05 AM
DinosaurMichael
Jan 30 2012, 09:06 AM
FireEel
Jan 29 2012, 10:27 PM
If both creatures existed at the same time, the elephant would be staple diet for the T.rex.
By ambush. Face to face. It would probably be alot different.


Not only did the T.rex outweight all but the largest of bull elephants, it was also a very solidly-built fighter.

People tend to forget that the T.rex wasn't just an apex predator thanks to its size, it also had better weaponry and greater power than similarly-sized theropods.
True, but only reason I vote elephant is because it's more stable. Anyway T-Rex has a good chance of winning too.
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