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Who wins?
Lion Coalition of 3 22 (37.9%)
Pleistocene Polar Bear 36 (62.1%)
Total Votes: 58
Lion Coalition of 3 v Pleistocene Polar Bear
Topic Started: Jan 30 2012, 08:01 PM (8,558 Views)
Taipan
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Lion Coalition of 3 - Panthera leo
The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera, and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight, it is the second-largest living cat after the tiger. Wild lions currently exist in Sub-Saharan Africa and in Asia with an endangered remnant population in Gir Forest National Park in India, having disappeared from North Africa and Southwest Asia in historic times. Until the late Pleistocene, about 10,000 years ago, the lion was the most widespread large land mammal after humans. They were found in most of Africa, across Eurasia from western Europe to India, and in the Americas from the Yukon to Peru. The lion is a vulnerable species, having seen a possibly irreversible population decline of thirty to fifty percent over the past two decades in its African range. The African lion is a very large cat, with males weighing between 330 and 550 pounds and females weighing between 260 and 400 pounds. It is 8 to 10 feet long, not including the tail. Its most famous feature is its mane, which only male lions have. The mane is a yellow color when the lion is young and darkens with age. Eventually, the mane will be dark brown. The body of the African lion is well suited for hunting. It is very muscular, with back legs designed for pouncing and front legs made for grabbing and knocking down prey. It also has very strong jaws that enable it to eat the large prey that it hunts.

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Pleistocene Polar Bear - Ursus maritimus tyrannus
Ursus maritimus tyrannus was a very large fossil subspecies of the polar bear that descended from an Arctic population of brown bears. Its name in Latin means Tyrant Sea Bear. Initially the isolated brown bears were no different than the variations of brown bears of that time period. Because litters of cubs can show significant species variations in hair color and hair thickness, this gave certain individuals a survival advantage passed on each generation. Eventually skull changes and even changes in dentition occurred leading to the smooth and rather quick evolution of U. maritimus tyrannus. U. maritimus tyrannus was considerably larger then its modern relative. If everything is scaled out correctly from its remains, it would had been 183 cm (6 ft) at the shoulders, 3,6 m (12 ft) long and would have weighted an average of 1.2 tons, making it the largest bear "and one of the largest mammalian carnivores to ever walk on land". Its tremendous size makes it even bigger than the other "largest" mammalian carnivores that ever lived, including Andrewsarchus, Agriotherium, and Arctodus simus. It's speculated that this gigantic bear would, due to its formidable size and strength, have preyed on mammoths which also lived during the time.

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Bright Nights
Jan 30 2012, 01:38 AM
Three Male Lions vs. Ursus maritimus tyrannus
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Megafelis Fatalis
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Ursus Maritimus Tyrannus wins IMO
Too large for 3 African Lions, One paw swipe could do alot of damage for the lion.
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Wolf Eagle
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Ya, I think the Bear would be too big.
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Rodentsofunusualsize
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The bear would probably win, but don't count out the Lions, three of them, and Lions are pack animals so they would be more dangerous than three similarly sized animals would be. One blow could severely stun or even injure a Lion, but they may be able to cling on the back and wear it down.
Edited by Rodentsofunusualsize, Jan 31 2012, 01:23 AM.
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tyrannotitan
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Kitties stand no chance.
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Vivyx
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Mismatch in favour of the lions, the Pleistocene Polar Bear was only 400 kg.
Edited by Vivyx, Dec 6 2013, 06:10 PM.
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yigit05
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lions 250+250+250=750kg,agility,stronger bite
u.m.t win 1200kg,paws,more muscular
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TheUndertaker45
Dec 2 2013, 08:45 PM
Pleosticine Polar Bear vs Lion Coalition of 5


Maybe you could give your opinion of how 5 would fare against this species of bear in this thread!
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Mukul
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well not 5 but 4 are enough to kill bear.
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The bear over lions:
Thick hide-dense layer of protective fat-club like arms with long sharp claws-much stronger bite-bears are able to turn directions quickly which is vital when dealing with numerous foes.

Lions over bear:
Numbers-lions work good as a team-agility which should help them avoid some swipes but since they'll receive most swipes when they're charging it's not gonna shield them completely- strong muscles that combined can help them subdue the bear

As the fight begins the lions try to go for the bears throat but they receive some heavy blows and I can see this dismantling one of them at least if the bear goes for the offensive the lions have the agility to dodge most of the attacks, their claws would do some damage but not so much since the bear has armor and durability, if during the fight one of the lions is killed or can't fight anymore the remaining two will be in serious trouble but if they manage to do enough damage before this (which won't happen always) the other two have a chance but definitely one or more of them will die and perhaps they'll all suffer severe wounds and die after the fight

I vote bear 55/45
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Dynasty Warrior
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The bear is too big for even 3 lions I reckon. The lions combined weight of 750 kg isn't enough for a 1,200 kg Polar Bear. Polar bears are one of if the most carnivorous bear and should be more dangerous and have the weaponry to kill these 3 lions, not to mention the polar bears grappling and throwing strategies. They have been known to flip heavy seals so I don't see why a larger Plestiocene polar bear can't kill 3 lions.
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thesporerex
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Well the average lion is 195kg not 250kg, 585kg is all of them combined which is below half the bears weight so the bear defiantly wins against the lions especially because larger carnivores are more succesful against multiple smaller carnivores the majority of the time. 5 lions might be too much though, I am not sure about 4 lions though.
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Against 3 lions, bear wins 5/10.

Look how huge these modern polar bears are. Imagine how huge the prehistoric ones must have been.

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Edited by BoomerSooner, Dec 7 2013, 03:55 AM.
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Ursus "maritimus" tyrannus is actually only 400 kg (read blaze's posts in the sauropelta vs pleistocene polar bear thread). Mismatch in favor of the lions.
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The Pleistocene Polar Bear was only 400 kg, as posted by blaze. Mismatch in favour of the lions.
Edited by Vivyx, Dec 6 2013, 06:32 PM.
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