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60 lb starving cougar with badly broken leg kills pitbull.
Topic Started: Feb 2 2012, 07:06 AM (27,945 Views)
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Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion
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Joe Carreiro, owner of the massacred emus, said he spotted the lion walking away from one of the carcasses at about 6:30 a.m. Wednesday and then an hour later as it stalked his neighbor's horse. At that point, Carreiro said his dog, a 120-pound bull mastiff, crawled under a fence and barreled into the mountain lion, starting a fight that left the dog with scratches across its neck and arms but forcing the heavier cat to retreat.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1118emumassacre.html
i think the cougar "escaped" from the human.
The story shows an interaction between a dog and a cougar.
I think the real story was, a cougar, a dog AND a screaming human.

I don't see human in the mix. Instead the article someone in denial and a news article of a large cougar that was beaten by a smaller bull mastiff.

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Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion
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Joe Carreiro, owner of the massacred emus, said he spotted the lion walking away from one of the carcasses at about 6:30 a.m. Wednesday and then an hour later as it stalked his neighbor's horse. At that point, Carreiro said his dog, a 120-pound bull mastiff, crawled under a fence and barreled into the mountain lion, starting a fight that left the dog with scratches across its neck and arms but forcing the heavier cat to retreat.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1118emumassacre.html
Let's see what you have there. Hmmm. A Bull mastiff was scared up from in the face by a cougar that killed a bunch of imus. An then fled the scene. Even if that's the case, that's not a win by any means for the dog. Looks like the dog got punished, and then cougar fled. Juding by the claw marks, it appears to be a smaller cougar.

That being said English bullmastiffs have the strongest bites of any dogs. One of the most formidable of dogs. Very very strong dogs. But the story you quoted tells me, a cougar was caught in the act, clawed up the dog, and fled. According to the owner.


That being said I'll take an English bull mastiff over a dogos chances, any day of the week. There bad dogs, the strongest dogs I've been with.
what a load of bs, any form of credibility or you being unbiased you had just flew out of the window. Claw marks mean small cougar? the story says the cougar was larger, of course you can pick and choose what you want out of the various stories you read. After all, this is coming from the poster who claims he knows what terrier and dogs are capable of just because you owned a few pet.

If the cougar was so powerful it should have finished the job, turns out it had the shit beaten out of it and ran away looking for a nice tree to sit in for a couple of hours. Only the dog and cougar were involved and obviously the cougar did not like continuing a fair fight. Cougars and other felines prefer ambushing their prey, much the sames goes with encountering dogs. Anther story is of a smaller american bulldog confronting a cougar who attacked a small stb. The cougar did not have the advantage of pouncing on the dog when it had no time to react, so instead it fled the scene.

Cougars go so far out of their way from being caught to the point a tiny jack russell can leave one terrified in a tree for hours in hopes of avoiding a confrontation.

So obviously it doesn't take a bull mastiff to start a fight with a cougar and live to tell the tale, other breeds can do so. And at similar sizes I can readily accept that a dogo can beat up a cougar and send it packing. Running away form a full on fight is a huge sign of a loss, you can say "oh no, the cougar scratched the dog and left the fight". Say whatever you want bu tthe results end up with a large cat running away from a dog that kicked it's ass.
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we all know that cougars can kill pitbulls half their size, but that being said, most of these dogs who live in the "mountains" and come into contact with these cougars in north america are loving caring pets who don't know if its "right" to fight back.

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Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion
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Joe Carreiro, owner of the massacred emus, said he spotted the lion walking away from one of the carcasses at about 6:30 a.m. Wednesday and then an hour later as it stalked his neighbor's horse. At that point, Carreiro said his dog, a 120-pound bull mastiff, crawled under a fence and barreled into the mountain lion, starting a fight that left the dog with scratches across its neck and arms but forcing the heavier cat to retreat.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1118emumassacre.html
i think the cougar "escaped" from the human.
The story shows an interaction between a dog and a cougar.
I think the real story was, a cougar, a dog AND a screaming human.

I don't see human in the mix. Instead the article someone in denial and a news article of a large cougar that was beaten by a smaller bull mastiff.

cheers
Oh no not this one. A Bull mastiff in full attack mode attacks a nondescript cougar and fails to kill it. How useless are canines than as fighters when given the advantages they fail to produce the results. A non descript cougar fights it off and escapes.

And who saw all this? - no one except the dogs owner (apparently).

And how big was the cougar or what gender? No one knows as no one saw it. The wildlife investigator (Randy Babb who I have been in email contact with) made an estimate based on the average weight of an adult male in that region for the newspapers.

And the actual articles title is "Mountain lion kills 20 emus, still at large" rather than "Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion" if anyone was under that impression.

A typical lousy effort from a domestic canine again!! rolleyes
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Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion
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Joe Carreiro, owner of the massacred emus, said he spotted the lion walking away from one of the carcasses at about 6:30 a.m. Wednesday and then an hour later as it stalked his neighbor's horse. At that point, Carreiro said his dog, a 120-pound bull mastiff, crawled under a fence and barreled into the mountain lion, starting a fight that left the dog with scratches across its neck and arms but forcing the heavier cat to retreat.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1118emumassacre.html
i think the cougar "escaped" from the human.
The story shows an interaction between a dog and a cougar.
I think the real story was, a cougar, a dog AND a screaming human.

I don't see human in the mix. Instead the article someone in denial and a news article of a large cougar that was beaten by a smaller bull mastiff.

cheers

Well a human must of been there to witness the event.
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Typical cat fanboing belittleling canines.
sigh.
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The only tough pitbull is the purebred game apbt dog in good condition. A pitbull can mean a wide variety of dogs, now a days.
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A pitbull can mean a wide variety of dogs, now a days.
Exactly. There´s people who consider pretty much anything a Pitbull depending on the head shape. I even came across a guy who thought Boston Terriers were APBT...
Edited by ARM0R, Jun 18 2013, 10:58 PM.
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Was it a Zombie Cougar??????????? lol
Edited by cidermaster, Jun 18 2013, 10:56 PM.
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http://altino.blogspot.com.br/2007/03/ona-luta-com-pit-bulls.html



Jaguar FIGHT WITH PIT BULLS
There are about three months, the farmer Edilberto Afonso de Moraes, the Concrete, was booked for supervision of IBAMA for putting jaguar to fight against four cockfight pit bull breed dogs.

To the delight of the audience Dogs have killed and seriously injured ounce out of the fight. But just surviving and remains with the farmer, who became the trustee of the animal.

On Tuesday, Eriel Punch Lima was killed with a shot to the head during the night because tambaqui fished without authorization Spawning on the farm, the property of Gilberto Afonso de Moraes, brother of former Deputy Junior Concrete, both sons farmer Concrete.

Three days later, two gunmen, presented to police as watchmen, were instructed by the lawyer so comical Florindo Poersch, president of the OAB-Acre, to claim that the fisherman was killed by other fishermen during a shootout by disagreement on sharing of fish.

There are hundreds of families jobless and hungry, they were transferred to the flooded areas around the farm.

The most comical story is having to watch the defense that the press is the murderers with the claim that the right to the family property had been violated.

Besides creating oxen, fish, jaguars and fighting cocks, Moraes family can wreak other offspring to defend their interests in strategic positions in public life Acre.

I realize that life back to worthless in Acre. Pretty soon begins deforestation for planting of sugarcane, soybeans, oil and gas exploration ...

It is the arena of the forest.


http://altino.blogspot.com.br/2007/03/ona-luta-com-pit-bulls.html
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Heres for you all I posted in the other thread. Young cougar cub fights two pitbulls, and a boxer. 1 pitbull winds up dead, and other two are seriously wounded by an adolescent cougar. Humor me pitbull fanatics, tell me your excuses. In a small Cougar adolescent fighting 2 pits and a boxer, Killing one and nearly killing the other 2. Human vets saved the other 2. Humor me pitbull fans. lol

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/jun/14/still-no-sign-of-possibly-wounded-cougar-after/?partner=RSS

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/jun/12/wounded-cougar-being-hunted-near-seabeck/


Some appeared to have claw marks and puncture wounds, indicating an attack by a small cougar.

The search for a reportedly wounded cougar continued Sunday in Seabeck.

Trained hounds were used once again to search an area near Hintzville, where last week a cougar is believed to have injured two pit bulls and a boxer in different incidents. One of the pit bulls had to be euthanized following the attack, its owner, Carrie Ramirez, said Saturday.

But just as they had Friday, the hounds failed to pick up a scent in the area, off Lost Highway, Sgt. Ted Jackson of the state Department of Fish and Wildlife said Sunday.

Jackson said residents in the area should always pay attention to where pets and children venture in such a rural environment. He encouraged anyone who spots the cougar to call the Washington State Patrol at (360) 405-6650.

But for now, "there's really nothing we can do," Jackson said.

The first attack came Tuesday, when the male pit bull was mortally wounded. On Friday, the cougar returned, Ramirez said, injuring a male boxer and a second pit bull, a female pregnant with the deceased male's babies.

Both incidents featured puncture wounds and claw marks, the signs of a cougar attack.

The cougar was reportedly wounded during the second attack Friday, when a man shot it in the hindquarters, Ramirez said.

The family was able to get the boxer and the pit bull to a veterinarian's hospital. The boxer's life was saved by the vet, Ramirez said, and the pit bull was treated as well.



Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/jun/14/still-no-sign-of-possibly-wounded-cougar-after/?partner=RSS#ixzz1lM4fRlW0

It was probably just a bobcat lol  :-*
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I don't find this account overly impressive, I own a 14 year old dog, at this stage he would be a pushover for a felid less his size, if this had been the same cougar taking down a 50 pound, 5 year old pitbull or something along those lines yes I would be impressed.

The only thing I find particularly impressive is the fact that the cougar was able to hide in a tree when the authorities caught up to it, never underestimate the resilience of a cat.
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Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion
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Joe Carreiro, owner of the massacred emus, said he spotted the lion walking away from one of the carcasses at about 6:30 a.m. Wednesday and then an hour later as it stalked his neighbor's horse. At that point, Carreiro said his dog, a 120-pound bull mastiff, crawled under a fence and barreled into the mountain lion, starting a fight that left the dog with scratches across its neck and arms but forcing the heavier cat to retreat.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1118emumassacre.html
i think the cougar "escaped" from the human.
The story shows an interaction between a dog and a cougar.
I think the real story was, a cougar, a dog AND a screaming human.

I don't see human in the mix. Instead the article someone in denial and a news article of a large cougar that was beaten by a smaller bull mastiff.

cheers
Oh no not this one. A Bull mastiff in full attack mode attacks a nondescript cougar and fails to kill it. How useless are canines than as fighters when given the advantages they fail to produce the results. A non descript cougar fights it off and escapes.

And who saw all this? - no one except the dogs owner (apparently).

And how big was the cougar or what gender? No one knows as no one saw it. The wildlife investigator (Randy Babb who I have been in email contact with) made an estimate based on the average weight of an adult male in that region for the newspapers.

And the actual articles title is "Mountain lion kills 20 emus, still at large" rather than "Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion" if anyone was under that impression.

A typical lousy effort from a domestic canine again!! rolleyes
I don't think that dog was working to kill the Cougar, any dog defending a horse will barrel into the opponent and try to get it to retreat. Any competent predator can escape an animal that is barely half its speed, and I'm not sure that's a thing Bull Mastiffs are renowned for.

A Cougar bigger than a 120 pound Bull Mastiff will most likely be a male, male Cougars regularly pass 60 kg in most of their range average.

Personally I think this fight would go down rather painful should it continue, although I give the Puma the advantage.
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Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion
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Joe Carreiro, owner of the massacred emus, said he spotted the lion walking away from one of the carcasses at about 6:30 a.m. Wednesday and then an hour later as it stalked his neighbor's horse. At that point, Carreiro said his dog, a 120-pound bull mastiff, crawled under a fence and barreled into the mountain lion, starting a fight that left the dog with scratches across its neck and arms but forcing the heavier cat to retreat.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1118emumassacre.html
i think the cougar "escaped" from the human.
The story shows an interaction between a dog and a cougar.
I think the real story was, a cougar, a dog AND a screaming human.

I don't see human in the mix. Instead the article someone in denial and a news article of a large cougar that was beaten by a smaller bull mastiff.

cheers
Oh no not this one. A Bull mastiff in full attack mode attacks a nondescript cougar and fails to kill it. How useless are canines than as fighters when given the advantages they fail to produce the results. A non descript cougar fights it off and escapes.

And who saw all this? - no one except the dogs owner (apparently).

And how big was the cougar or what gender? No one knows as no one saw it. The wildlife investigator (Randy Babb who I have been in email contact with) made an estimate based on the average weight of an adult male in that region for the newspapers.

And the actual articles title is "Mountain lion kills 20 emus, still at large" rather than "Bullmastiff fights and beats larger mountain lion" if anyone was under that impression.

A typical lousy effort from a domestic canine again!! rolleyes
Actually the most impressive thing in this event is that the cougar killed 20 emus! Emus are big ostrich-like birds, and they can even defend themselves from dingos by jumping and kicking them with their powerful legs.
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