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2 Smilodon populators 17 (47.2%)
Hippopotamus 19 (52.8%)
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2 Smilodon populators v Hippopotamus
Topic Started: Feb 2 2012, 08:42 PM (5,107 Views)
Taipan
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2 Smilodon populators
Smilodon, often called a saber-toothed cat or wrongly a saber-toothed tiger, is an extinct genus of machairodonts. This saber-toothed cat was endemic to North America and South America, living from near the beginning through the very end of the Pleistocene epoch (2.5 mya—10,000 years ago). Smilodon populator ("Smilodon the Devastator"), 1 million-10,000 years ago; occurred in the eastern parts of South America and was the largest species of all machairodonts. It was much larger than its cousins, S. fatalis and S. gracilis, possessing a massive chest and front legs, and is the largest known variety of saber-toothed cat. It was more than 1.40 m (55 in) high at the shoulder, 2.6 m (100 in) long on average and had a 30 cm (12 in) tail. Smilodon populator was substantially heavier and larger than any extant felid, with a body mass range of 220–360 kg. Particularly large specimens of S. populator almost certainly exceeded 400 kg in body mass. Its upper canines reached 30 cm (12 in) and protruded up to 17 cm (6.7 in) out of the upper jaw. Genetic evidence suggests that Smilodon populator and other members of the genus diverged from the main lineage of modern cats (subfamily Felinae) around 14-18 million years ago.

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Hippopotamus - Hippopotamus amphibius
The hippopotamus (Hippopotamus amphibius), or hippo, from the ancient Greek for "river horse" (ἱπποπόταμος), is a large, mostly herbivorous mammal in sub-Saharan Africa, and one of only two extant species in the family Hippopotamidae (the other is the Pygmy Hippopotamus.) After the elephant and rhinoceros, the hippopotamus is the third largest land mammal and the heaviest extant artiodactyl. The hippopotamus is semi-aquatic, inhabiting rivers, lakes and mangrove swamps where territorial bulls preside over a stretch of river and groups of 5 to 30 females and young. During the day they remain cool by staying in the water or mud; reproduction and childbirth both occur in water. They emerge at dusk to graze on grass. While hippopotamuses rest near each other in the water, grazing is a solitary activity and hippos are not territorial on land. Despite their physical resemblance to pigs and other terrestrial even-toed ungulates, their closest living relatives are cetaceans (whales, porpoises, etc.) from which they diverged about 55 million years ago. The common ancestor of whales and hippos split from other even-toed ungulates around 60 million years ago. The earliest known hippopotamus fossils, belonging to the genus Kenyapotamus in Africa, date to around 16 million years ago. The hippopotamus is recognizable by its barrel-shaped torso, enormous mouth and teeth, nearly hairless body, stubby legs and tremendous size. It is the third largest land mammal by weight (between 1½ and 3 tonnes), behind the white rhinoceros (1½ to 3½ tonnes) and the three species of elephant (3 to 9 tonnes). The hippopotamus is one of the largest quadrupeds (four legged mammals). Despite its stocky shape and short legs, it can easily outrun a human. Hippos have been clocked at 30 km/h (19 mph) over short distances. The hippopotamus is one of the most aggressive creatures in the world and is often regarded as one of the most dangerous animals in Africa. There are an estimated 125,000 to 150,000 hippos throughout Sub-Saharan Africa; Zambia (40,000) and Tanzania (20,000–30,000) possess the largest populations. They are still threatened by habitat loss and poaching for their meat and ivory canine teeth. Hippopotamuses are among the largest living mammals; only elephants and some rhinoceroses and whales are heavier. They can live in the water or on land. Their specific gravity allows them to sink and walk or run along the bottom of a river. Hippos are considered megafauna, but unlike all other African megafauna, hippos have adapted for a semi-aquatic life in freshwater lakes and rivers. Because of their enormous size, hippopotamuses are difficult to weigh in the wild. Most estimates of the weight come from culling operations that were carried out in the 1960s. The average weights for adult males ranged between 1,500–1,800 kg (3,300–4,000 lb). Females are smaller than their male counterparts, with average weights measuring between 1,300–1,500 kg (2,900–3,300 lb). Older males can get much larger, reaching at least 3,200 kg (7,100 lb) and occasionally weighing 4,500 kg (9,900 lb). Male hippos appear to continue growing throughout their lives; females reach a maximum weight at around age 25.

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Feb 2 2012, 07:30 PM
Hippopotamus v Smilodon Populator (2)

Edited by Taipan, Mar 26 2018, 03:18 PM.
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My vote goes to the Hippo, I don't see what the Smilodons can do. Granted, their sabres would be extremely effective if they could wrestle down the Hippo, but this is not a long legged ungulate. I see this either ending in a stalemate or a Hippo victory, either they stay on the back of the Hippo and can't do anything but the Hippo can't touch them, or they try and get the neck and they get chomped.
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I will wait for more opinions
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Wolf Eagle
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I think 2 Smilodons would win here, but only it the Hippo was a sub-adult or a female Hippo. If it's a Bull, I'm pretty sure the Smilodons would lose.
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I'd like to see thier sabers get trough the Hippo without breaking. Hippo wins 99% of the time.
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Rodentsofunusualsize
Feb 2 2012, 08:47 PM
My vote goes to the Hippo, I don't see what the Smilodons can do. Granted, their sabres would be extremely effective if they could wrestle down the Hippo, but this is not a long legged ungulate. I see this either ending in a stalemate or a Hippo victory, either they stay on the back of the Hippo and can't do anything but the Hippo can't touch them, or they try and get the neck and they get chomped.
Why should they need to wrestle down the hippo? Have you seen the videos of lions killing hyppos? In one instance two male lions killed one, they took turns at it, it was extremely long and gory, but there was nothing that the hippo could and did do. Like the lions, the smilos would jump on the back of their almost immobile quarry. The only hope for the hippo is that those saber teeth would break, otherwise even one populator - much stronger than a modern lion - would be enough for the job. Of course I assume we are talking about a fight on land here - in water of course it would be completely different..
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It's hard to predict since hippos only dealt with lions which are smaller and less powerful than Smilodon populator and the lion's killing methods are different from Smilodons.

Also Smilodon prey on Toxodon which is similar to the hippos beside the tusks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiPCb_BIFAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjpnk_EFBIg

This pretty much sums it up. Two inferior killers can do it.
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EDIT:
I posted in the wrong thread, can anyone delete my post ?
Edited by Megafelis Fatalis, Feb 3 2012, 03:36 AM.
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I see a huge gaping mouth coming at the cats,I think their claws would need to be longer to do any real damage i mean look at a hippo's girth.I also feel like getting around this things gigantic maw is one hell of a task that even two smilodon's couldn't accomplish.
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Feb 3 2012, 05:14 AM
I see a huge gaping mouth coming at the cats,I think their claws would need to be longer to do any real damage i mean look at a hippo's girth.I also feel like getting around this things gigantic maw is one hell of a task that even two smilodon's couldn't accomplish.
So why isn't the huge gaping mouth coming at the lions? In truth, there was one event were a hippo succeeded to bite the head of a lioness (which amazingly survived) but it was an accidental event. In all the videos the hippos on land seem passive and the lions almost sloppy and uncareful, more as if they are trying to eat from a huge mound of meat than to hunt a living, dangerous animal. Smilodon was probably less nimble than lions, but it was still a cat and so infinitely quicker than a hippo. In sum, the latter would need a huge amount of luck to grab the former. If the smilo fangs broke up, I can see the cat giving up the hunt, but it would be very unlikey that the hippo would harm it (or them if they were two).
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populator135
Feb 3 2012, 02:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiPCb_BIFAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjpnk_EFBIg

This pretty much sums it up. Two inferior killers can do it.
Those are LIONS. Smarty. They don't have to worry about thier teeth.
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Exactly kid. Lions. About half the weight, not nearly as muscled, smaller claws, and teeth that cannot cause a lethal wound with one blow.

P.S The fragility of saberteeth has been discussed so many times that I will not get drawn into a conversation about it. It's grossly exaggerated.
Edited by populator135, Feb 3 2012, 08:50 AM.
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I'm not sure. This won't be easy for the Smilodons. But I vote Hippo. Lion prides can't kill them so I don't see any hope for the Smilodons.
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As the video above proves, 2 males can kill a hippo.
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