Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Carnivora. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 22
Who wins?
Cougar 75 (85.2%)
Dogo Argentino 13 (14.8%)
Total Votes: 88
Cougar v Dogo Argentino
Topic Started: Feb 7 2012, 05:17 PM (48,495 Views)
Taipan
Member Avatar
Administrator

Cougar - Puma concolor
The cougar (Puma concolor), also known as puma, mountain lion, mountain cat, catamount or panther, depending on the region, is a mammal of the family Felidae, native to the Americas. This large, solitary cat has the greatest range of any large wild terrestrial mammal in the Western Hemisphere, extending from Yukon in Canada to the southern Andes of South America. An adaptable, generalist species, the cougar is found in every major American habitat type. It is the second heaviest cat in the American continents after the jaguar. Although large, the cougar is most closely related to smaller felines. Cougars are slender and agile cats. They are the fourth largest cats and adults stand about 60 to 76 centimeters (2.0 to 2.5 ft) tall at the shoulders. The length of adult males is around 2.4 meters (8 ft) long nose to tail, with overall ranges between 1.5 and 2.75 m (5 and 9 ft) nose to tail suggested for the species in general. Males typically weigh 53 to 100 kilograms (115 to 220 pounds), averaging 62 kg (137 lb). Females typically weigh between 29 and 64 kg (64 and 141 lb), averaging 42 kg (93 lb). Cougar size is smallest close to the equator, and larger towards the poles. The largest recorded cougar was shot in Arizona and weighed 125.5 kilograms (276 pounds) after its intestines were removed, indicating that in life it could have weighed nearly 136.2 kilograms (300 pounds). Several male cougars in British Columbia weighed between 86.4 and 95.5 kilograms (190 to 210 pounds).

Posted Image

Dogo Argentino
The Dogo Argentino (also known as the Argentine Dogo) is a large, white, muscular dog that was developed in Argentina primarily for the purpose of big-game hunting, including wild boar and puma; the breeder, Antonio Nores Martinez, also wanted a dog that would exhibit steadfast bravery and willingly protect its human companion to the death. The Dogo Argentino is a large white short-coated dog with a smooth muscular body that rarely has any markings (any type of marking or spot on the coat is considered a flaw). Height: From 23 ½ to 26 inches inches (females) or 24 to 27 inches (males), measured at the withers. Weight: From 80 to 100 pounds. The length of the body is just slightly longer than the height, but female dogs may be somewhat longer in body than male dogs. The length of the front leg (measured from point of elbow to the ground) is approximately equal to one-half of the dog's height at the withers. The head has a broad, slightly domed skull and the muzzle is slightly higher at the nose than the stop, when viewed in profile. The tail is set low, thick at the base and tapers to a point. It has been described as looking similar to an American Bulldog or a tall, solid white American Pit Bull Terrier.

Posted Image

_______________________________________________________________________________


FelinePowah
Feb 7 2012, 05:41 AM
Female puma vs male dogo both weight 40-45kg


I'll make a general matchup, and you can discuss specific characteristic matchups ie. gender & weight.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ImperialDino
Omnivore
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Top of the line male cougars are too much for top of the line dogo's to handle, but I do see some overlapping in this match up. I think male and female dogo's match up well against female cougars, while male cougars are too much
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
kuri
Herbivore
[ *  *  *  * ]
already discussed in many other threads with a lot of accounts.
Puma wins. The only hope for the dogo is only a starved, wounded or very young cougar.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Rodentsofunusualsize
Member Avatar
cogcaptainduck
[ *  *  * ]
In the scenario that FP described, the Dogo wins handily. Male vs male at parity the Cougar wins.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Gregoire
Omnivore
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
I think female cougar at parity 40-45 kg vs male dogo 55/45 cougar, for male cougar 60/40.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
kuri
Herbivore
[ *  *  *  * ]
Rodentsofunusualsize
Feb 7 2012, 06:26 PM
In the scenario that FP described, the Dogo wins handily. Male vs male at parity the Cougar wins.
FP descriped, Femala Cougar vs Dogo (same weight). Same weight always feline wins!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Rodentsofunusualsize
Member Avatar
cogcaptainduck
[ *  *  * ]
Umm, why? A male Dogo vs a female Cougar removes most of the advantages that the male Cougar has over the Dogo. The strength advantage is removed, the claws are smaller and females are less combative if I am correct. I am sick of this myth that felines win against everything at parity, irrespective of sex, size and animal.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Gregoire
Omnivore
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
I think than strenght advantage not removed at all in the case of female. Claws are claws and agility, grappling ect female have too. Dogo have good chances with females,but IMO not better than 45%.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
DinosaurMichael
Member Avatar
Apex Predator
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Cougar wins.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
FelinePowah
Member Avatar
Pussy Lover
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Rodentsofunusualsize
Feb 7 2012, 11:14 PM
Umm, why? A male Dogo vs a female Cougar removes most of the advantages that the male Cougar has over the Dogo. The strength advantage is removed, the claws are smaller and females are less combative if I am correct. I am sick of this myth that felines win against everything at parity, irrespective of sex, size and animal.
So female Pumas are weak???

Give the female cubs to protect and i think you will find she would be very very combative and make light work of the skinny legged mutt!

Its funny how on these forums if you put female in front of an animals name it some how becomes are feeble weakling.. :P
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
populator135
Member Avatar
Heterotrophic Organism
[ *  *  * ]
The cougar would win without too much trouble.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Rodentsofunusualsize
Member Avatar
cogcaptainduck
[ *  *  * ]
I never said they were weak, merely weaker than a male Dogo, a male Cougar would win quite easily against a male Dogo at parity. And if you are making some vague jab implying I am sexist, please walk in to a brick wall. And if the Cougar gets cubs to protect then the Dogo gets an owner to encourage it. Females are smaller and less heavily built than males, and their claws are smaller as result of being smaller and thus less effective. As cats get bigger they get stronger, which is the reverse for most domestic dogs. At larger weights the Dogo would get it's arse handed to it, at lower weights against a female I think it has more than a good chance.
Edited by Rodentsofunusualsize, Feb 8 2012, 02:34 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
kuri
Herbivore
[ *  *  *  * ]
you can not compare the sexual dimorphism between a human and e.g. a cougar.
A female cougar is (not 100%) a smaller male cougar.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Sicilianu
Member Avatar
Omnivore
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Cougar wins this with relative ease. Add another dog to the equation and now we have something to debate.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Gregoire
Omnivore
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
If female cougar weight 40kg and male dogo 42-45 kg i think its 50/50.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
DealsFor.me - The best sales, coupons, and discounts for you
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Interspecific Conflict · Next Topic »
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 22