Visual Comparisons Thread

Welcome to Carnivora. We hope you enjoy your visit.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.

Join our community!

If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Pages:
1
…
33
34
35
…
113

Visual Comparisons Thread
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 7 2012, 01:17 AM (507,274 Views)
JaM	Jun 26 2012, 02:24 AM Post #496
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 474 Group: Members Member #240 Joined: Mar 15, 2012	I've heard that claim before, already Gerald Wood mentioned those extra tall elephants in the second version of Animal Facts and Feats, which was published only a couple of years after this elephant was shot. Maybe they're taller on average, but that doesn't mean that any of them ever was 4.2 m tall. Who killed that super tall elephant, and where's it exhibited? The Fenykovi elephant was already extremely tall. It was put in a museum. What happened to the super tall Namibian elephant? Are there any zoological resources about those elephants which confirm their tall stature?



SpinoInWonderland	Jun 26 2012, 02:39 AM Post #497
The madness has come back... Posts: 6,987 Group: Members Member #373 Joined: Jun 10, 2012	JaM Jun 26 2012, 01:38 AM The pic is basd on drawings of skeletons of Camarasaurus lentus and Apatosaurus louisae at close to their max known size. It's a modern reconstruction, as can be seen from the high shoulders of the C. lentus. I don't know who made these drawings? I got them from some Japanese site. Does this image work, as it's very wide? Apatosaurus maximum size is 28 meters, it should make the Camarasaurus look like a tiny saltasaur Have you ever heard of the Oklahoma Apatosaurus specimen? Anyway, here's a Morrison Dinosaur size comparison: http://brolyeuphyfusion9500.deviantart.com/#/d53s2xf<--link, and it's my first dinosaur-related image in deviantart Edited by SpinoInWonderland, Jun 26 2012, 02:42 AM.



JaM	Jun 26 2012, 02:55 AM Post #498
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 474 Group: Members Member #240 Joined: Mar 15, 2012	brolyeuphyfusion Jun 26 2012, 02:39 AM Apatosaurus maximum size is 28 meters, it should make the Camarasaurus look like a tiny saltasaur Have you ever heard of the Oklahoma Apatosaurus specimen? Sure I have! http://svpow.com/2012/04/30/the-giant-oklahoma-apatosaurus-omnh-1670-redux/ I know there are bigger specimens. This drawing is the louisae species. This is based on the mount at the Carnegie museum. It's not the biggest Apatosaurus. The A. louisae is clearly much bigger than the C. lentus in the drawing - but the C. lentus is drawn with a tall front end, which they probably had, and that makes it look a bit bigger than it is. The C. lentus is around 15 m, while the A. louisae is around 21 m (or something like that). A comparison between biggest Camarasaurus (supremus species) and the biggest Apatosaurus (unknown species) would probably not be that different, just the human would be smaller. If we scale up the Apatosaurus with the same amount that the Camarasaurus would be scaled, the two animals wold be 23 and 32 m, receptively. Perhaps the Camarasaurus wasn't that tall in the front, but you never know. I'm not sure if the Camrasaurus supremus got to be 23 m long, but that's what most sources say. Edit: Just for the heck of it I recreated the comparison with the max size Camarosaurus (23 m) and the max size Apatosaurus (a little over 28m) The 23 m length may not seem like much, but the Camarasaurus had a shorter neck and tail than most other sauropods. It's the wrong Apatosaurus species, so there could be some difference in the relative dimensions, compared to the actual species.. Edit: I already put this in the C. supremus tread - this is a lentus scaled up to supremus size - 23 m like above and a 22 m Mamenchisaurus hochuanensis. It Just shows that length isn't everything! Edited by JaM, Jun 26 2012, 08:34 PM.



Ursus arctos	Jun 27 2012, 09:26 AM Post #499
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 1,445 Group: Admins Member #3 Joined: Feb 28, 2011	Picture by Casey Anderson.



Megafelis Fatalis	Jun 27 2012, 09:36 PM Post #500
Carnivore Posts: 2,590 Group: Members Member #44 Joined: Jan 12, 2012	White Rhinoceros V African Bush Elephant



theropod	Jun 27 2012, 10:33 PM Post #501
palaeontology, open source and survival enthusiast Posts: 9,345 Group: Members Member #301 Joined: Apr 29, 2012	@ JaM: I really like those comparisons It´s interesting to see some skeletal comparisons between Diplodocids and early macronarians. And it seems to me like camarasaurus is quite underrated. It was quite a huge animal. If we take the weight for a 13,8m long C.supremus (9,3t 1 ) and scale up to 23m we get 43t. Most people don´t know how large this animal could get.



SpinoInWonderland	Jun 28 2012, 12:20 AM Post #502
The madness has come back... Posts: 6,987 Group: Members Member #373 Joined: Jun 10, 2012	theropod Jun 27 2012, 10:33 PM @ JaM: I really like those comparisons It´s interesting to see some skeletal comparisons between Diplodocids and early macronarians. And it seems to me like camarasaurus is quite underrated. It was quite a huge animal. If we take the weight for a 13,8m long C.supremus (9,3t 1 ) and scale up to 23m we get 43t. Most people don´t know how large this animal could get. Don't forget the fact that dinosaurs never actually stop growing lol, so something like a 40-meter Apatosaurus is not outside the realm of possibility



theropod	Jun 28 2012, 01:06 AM Post #503
palaeontology, open source and survival enthusiast Posts: 9,345 Group: Members Member #301 Joined: Apr 29, 2012	Nothing is impossible. It´s very likely that they got very old, so who knows how large very old individuals were? Something like a 100m amphicoelias also isn´t completely outside the realm of possibility, but because of numerous species which we have found usually no specimens are longer than 40m, I think it´s unlikely. There is a size limit, but there are always exceptionally large individuals in every species. What I meant was that the size of Camarasaurus is very underrated. Most people think it´s a rather small sauropod.



SpinoInWonderland	Jun 28 2012, 01:15 AM Post #504
The madness has come back... Posts: 6,987 Group: Members Member #373 Joined: Jun 10, 2012	theropod Jun 28 2012, 01:06 AM Nothing is impossible. It´s very likely that they got very old, so who knows how large very old individuals were? Something like a 100m amphicoelias also isn´t completely outside the realm of possibility, but because of numerous species which we have found usually no specimens are longer than 40m, I think it´s unlikely. There is a size limit, but there are always exceptionally large individuals in every species. What I meant was that the size of Camarasaurus is very underrated. Most people think it´s a rather small sauropod. It's because of the 12-meter juvenile Camarasaurus skeleton



theropod	Jun 29 2012, 05:21 AM Post #505
palaeontology, open source and survival enthusiast Posts: 9,345 Group: Members Member #301 Joined: Apr 29, 2012	Most people believe in only up to 18m, and maybe 20t or so. Edited by theropod, Jun 29 2012, 05:21 AM.



theropod	Jun 30 2012, 05:26 AM Post #506
palaeontology, open source and survival enthusiast Posts: 9,345 Group: Members Member #301 Joined: Apr 29, 2012



Megafelis Fatalis	Jun 30 2012, 06:30 AM Post #507
Carnivore Posts: 2,590 Group: Members Member #44 Joined: Jan 12, 2012	sinammonite



Sam1	Jun 30 2012, 06:17 PM Post #508
Herbivore Posts: 977 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: Jan 8, 2012	Can't believe this Stegotetrabelodon..3 tusks? As if nature was having some fun there



Taipan	Jun 30 2012, 09:46 PM Post #509
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Sam1 Jun 30 2012, 06:17 PM 3 tusks? 4. Two upper, two lower.



Sam1	Jul 2 2012, 01:01 AM Post #510
Herbivore Posts: 977 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: Jan 8, 2012	Whoops. Indeed, lol. Good correction



2 users reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous)


Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Video & Image Gallery · Next Topic »

Pages:
1
…
33
34
35
…
113