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Topic Started: Jan 7 2012, 01:17 AM (507,270 Views)
DinosaurMichael
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Jul 8 2012, 09:39 PM
Thanx DinosaurMichael !!
You're welcome. Just thought I post them for you that's all.
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SpinoInWonderland
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Shunosaurus and Stegosaurus size comparison
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Stegosaurus(maximum size, in green) = 12 meters
Shunosaurus = 11 meters
Stegosaurus armatus = 9 meters
Stegosaurus stenops(in red) = 7 meters
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Megafelis Fatalis
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Hey guys, i updated my Barbourofelis picture on page 37
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SameerPrehistorica
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Jul 5 2012, 05:39 AM
SameerPrehistorica, that deinotherium is pretty cool. It's an overlooked giant mammal, but it seems just as big as the other "largest terrestrial mammals".
Thank you...It is the third largest land mammal...after one of the big species of mammoth...whether Songhua Mammoth exists or not..there should be some other still to be explored and the Indricotherium..
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Shongua mammoth not only didn't exits, the wild size estimates were based on an innacurate skeletal mount. It doesn't seem that there was a mammoth species with an average height over 4m, M. trogontherii, M. meridionalis and M. "imperator"/columbi were, at least the males, close to that, largest specimens might of been ~4.5 and in fact, the largest remains we have is an M. trogontherii estimated to be just that big. so... paraceratherium first, mammuthus/deinotherium second,

brolyeuphyfusion, were there really 9-12m stegosaurus?
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Jul 9 2012, 04:38 PM
brolyeuphyfusion, were there really 9-12m stegosaurus?
That's what I asked in the Shunosaurus vs Stegosaurus thread, because the claim is written all over the net, but it's never substantiated.
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Is the ”12 metre Stegosaurus’” really valid? AFAIK the adult S. stenops was around 6-7 metres long. Many exhibited examples are smaller still.
I only have Wikipedia as source about their size:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stegosaurus
Wikipedia is extremely inconsistent about this. In the "Description" part they say 12 metres for S. armatus, and that the Stegosaurus’ were


I know just about nothing about stegosaurs, but I tried to find info about a "12 metre S. Armatus" and I couldn't find anything. My immediate impression is that S. armatus was up to 9 metres, and the S. stenops species was up to 7 metres - or that what the only referenced claim about there size says in the Wiki article.
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Saurosuchus and Black Rhinoceros size comparison:
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Saurosuchus = 7 meters
Saurosuchus(in red) = 6 meters
Black Rhinoceros = 3.9 meters
Black Rhinoceros(in green) = 3.5 meters
(This should cover the known size ranges of both animals)


@JaM: the 12-meter Stegosaurus is a hypothetical what-if, "What if Stegosaurus really grew to 12 meters long?". I included it because it is a possibility considering that the number of specimens discovered pales in comparison to the total Stegosaurus population(which is an unknown but large number)
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brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 10 2012, 01:02 AM
Saurosuchus and Black Rhinoceros size comparison:
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Saurosuchus = 7 meters
Saurosuchus(in red) = 6 meters
Black Rhinoceros = 3.9 meters
Black Rhinoceros(in green) = 3.5 meters
(This should cover the known size ranges of both animals)


@JaM: the 12-meter Stegosaurus is a hypothetical what-if, "What if Stegosaurus really grew to 12 meters long?". I included it because it is a possibility considering that the number of specimens discovered pales in comparison to the total Stegosaurus population(which is an unknown but large number)
Please update/delete your size comparison (based on the 60cm long skull)
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I was diggin a bit and found that the largest known femur is 1.33m, using the skeletal reconstruction from Greg Paul it got to ~7m, with this in mind and that a 9m individual would be twice the weight, it looks more like 9m is a more realistic hypothetical maximum size, not by any means average, it might even be too big, considering the ~7m is already a large individual.

Edit: I was* haha
Edited by blaze, Jul 10 2012, 03:32 AM.
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brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 10 2012, 01:02 AM

JaM: the 12-meter Stegosaurus is a hypothetical what-if, "What if Stegosaurus really grew to 12 meters long?". I included it because it is a possibility considering that the number of specimens discovered pales in comparison to the total Stegosaurus population(which is an unknown but large number)
But I talk about the general claim you see everywhere, that the stegosaurus could reach 12 m. Just look at the Wikipedia page where the claim is repeated, even though there's some inconsistency on the page.
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I've was diggin a bit and found that the largest known femur is 1.33m, using the skeletal reconstruction from Greg Paul it got to ~7m, with this in mind and that a 9m individual would be twice the weight, it looks more like 9m is a more realistic hypothetical maximum size, not by any means average, it might even be too big, considering the ~7m is already a large individual.
Seems like the 12 m size claim is an exaggeration. Quite a big one too...
Edited by JaM, Jul 10 2012, 03:26 AM.
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blaze
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yeah lol 5 times bigger than the biggest individual we know of.
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Jul 10 2012, 02:03 AM
brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 10 2012, 01:02 AM
Saurosuchus and Black Rhinoceros size comparison:
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Saurosuchus = 7 meters
Saurosuchus(in red) = 6 meters
Black Rhinoceros = 3.9 meters
Black Rhinoceros(in green) = 3.5 meters
(This should cover the known size ranges of both animals)


@JaM: the 12-meter Stegosaurus is a hypothetical what-if, "What if Stegosaurus really grew to 12 meters long?". I included it because it is a possibility considering that the number of specimens discovered pales in comparison to the total Stegosaurus population(which is an unknown but large number)
Please update/delete your size comparison (based on the 60cm long skull)
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I updated it, now it includes an estimate based on the 60 centimeter skull
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American Bison and Ceratosaurus(both at maximum known size):
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Edited by SpinoInWonderland, Jul 11 2012, 02:03 AM.
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But there is no evidence that Saurosuchus reached 9m or 8m, 6.5m-6.8m would probably be the maximum size.
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Ceratosaurus maximum known size is ~7m, with undescribed remains possibly of an individual ~7.4m long. Yours looks too big.
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I thought it was 8,8m? Has it been revised? it always seemed very large too me.
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