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| Lion Coalition of 3 Lions v Black Rhinoceros | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 18 2012, 08:04 PM (14,282 Views) | |
| Taipan | Feb 18 2012, 08:04 PM Post #1 |
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Lion Coalition of 3 Lions - Panthera leo The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera, and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight, it is the second-largest living cat after the tiger. Wild lions currently exist in Sub-Saharan Africa and in Asia with an endangered remnant population in Gir Forest National Park in India, having disappeared from North Africa and Southwest Asia in historic times. Until the late Pleistocene, about 10,000 years ago, the lion was the most widespread large land mammal after humans. They were found in most of Africa, across Eurasia from western Europe to India, and in the Americas from the Yukon to Peru. The lion is a vulnerable species, having seen a possibly irreversible population decline of thirty to fifty percent over the past two decades in its African range. The African lion is a very large cat, with males weighing between 330 and 550 pounds and females weighing between 260 and 400 pounds. It is 8 to 10 feet long, not including the tail. Its most famous feature is its mane, which only male lions have. The mane is a yellow color when the lion is young and darkens with age. Eventually, the mane will be dark brown. The body of the African lion is well suited for hunting. It is very muscular, with back legs designed for pouncing and front legs made for grabbing and knocking down prey. It also has very strong jaws that enable it to eat the large prey that it hunts. ![]() Black Rhinoceros - Diceros bicornis An adult Black Rhinoceros stands 140–170 cm (57.9–63 inches) high at the shoulder and is 3.3-3.6 m (10.8–11.8 feet) in length. An adult weighs from 800 to 1364 kg (1,760 to 3,000 lb), but sometimes grows up to 1818 kg (4,000 lb), The females are smaller than the males. Two horns on the skull are made of keratin with the larger front horn typically 50 cm long, exceptionally up to 140 cm. The longest known horn measured nearly 5 feet in length. Sometimes, a third smaller horn may develop. These horns are used for defense, intimidation, and digging up roots and breaking branches during feeding. Skin color depends more on local soil conditions and the rhinoceros' wallowing behavior than anything else, so many black rhinos are typically not truly black in color. The Black Rhino is much smaller than the White Rhino, and has a long, pointed, and prehensile upper lip, which it uses to grasp leaves and twigs when feeding. White Rhinoceros have square lips used for eating grass. The Black Rhinoceros can also be recognized from the White Rhinoceros by its smaller skull and ears. Black Rhinoceros also do not have a distinguishing shoulder hump like the White Rhinoceros. ![]() _______________________________________________________________________
I made it three if that's OK Edited by Taipan, Oct 22 2012, 05:08 PM.
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| Mammuthus | Sep 19 2016, 04:58 AM Post #76 |
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^how is that relevant to the current conversation? |
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| animalkingdom | Sep 19 2016, 03:32 PM Post #77 |
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black rhinos are more robust than cape buffalo, why don't you believe this? and i might me somewhere wrong of black rhino being as strong as 3 cape buffaloes combined, but 2 def. and what do you mean by there are no accounts of black rhino killing cape buffalo, it is not that they always encounter each other or there will be always footage of it, black rhino if were to fight cape buffalo there will be no chance for cape buffalo, even three cape buffaloes wouldn't dare to attack black rhino in group. and this thread is about lions vs black rhino ,how do we get into cape buffalo and rhino conservation hahahha |
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| Mammuthus | Sep 19 2016, 05:31 PM Post #78 |
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I know right
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| buteo | Sep 21 2016, 04:55 AM Post #79 |
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this is nearly a mismatch in favor of rhino |
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| Trish | Oct 15 2017, 10:43 AM Post #80 |
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Black Rhinoceros VS 3 Lions- Black Rhino, I Believe. Lions mainly lioness though, are good at working as a pride to bring down large animals like Cape Buffalo, Zebra, Eland, and Giraffes (although Giraffes are not as commonly prayed upon as the first three animals mentioned.) but even three male lions working as a team would have serious trouble against a 3,000 pound Black Rhinoceros. Black Rhinoceros are the most aggressive of the rhino species, and would stand its ground against predation, especially if its a mother with a calf. While a black rhinoceros may run if its out numbered by a pride of lions, if the rhinoceros chooses to stand its ground however a pride of lions wouldn't be successful in bringing it down, as the rhino would be too big, too protected by its tough skin and girth, too quick and fast, and lastly too dangerously armed with its deadly horn. While I wouldn't rule out three male lions achieving a kill here, I wouldn't give them the win against any thing bigger than lets say a Cape Buffalo or a Giraffe. To add to my assessment when I was on Interspecies Conflict Allexperts, I used to ask about matchups involving three lions working as a team, and last year in the very first matchup involving the lion trio, I named the black rhino as there opponent and the expert (BK) gave the Black Rhinoceros the win, in which I agreed, however fast forwarding to the second to last question I posted on interspecies conflict I assigned the Giraffe as the lion trio's opponent and the expert(BK) backed the lions to win and I agreed with that,(although some of you may have different opinions on this one.). While I'm not comparing the two scenarios because of course a Black Rhinoceros is a much more formidable adversary than a Giraffe, I'm just addressing the question to what would be the largest animal I would back the lion trio over. My conclusion to this is, while the lion trio could prevail in this matchup with great risk, determination, and persistence I would back the black rhinoceros to win this matchup on a typical basis and fight off the lions. Black Rhinoceros Wins. |
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| Taipan | Oct 15 2017, 01:24 PM Post #81 |
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I'd think the lions would fail more often than not. They have killed large Rhinos before:![]() Two male lions with their rhino kill We also spotted a male lion in the tall grass and as we approached, we realized that two brothers had managed to kill a fully grown female rhino. Our guide, Pule, was beside himself because he didn't think that a pair of relatively inexperienced lions (they know all the lions in the reserve by name) could take down a rhino, but as he said, "Miracles do happen". http://razaman.blogspot.com.au/2009/08/south-africa-2009-part-4.html However the records of successful prwedation on Black Rhinoceros suggests the lions are more likely to succeed on Black Rhinos that are not fully grown. |
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| tigerburningbright | Oct 15 2017, 01:58 PM Post #82 |
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Lions will try to kill anything so the fact that they only (very) rarely kill Black Rhinos is impressive in of itself. Black Rhinos aren't THAT much larger than Cape Buffaloes are (and are Solitary not herd animals like Capes are) yet Cape Buffaloes are commonly killed by Lions....where as we only have a handful of rare accounts of Lions killing Black Rhinos....the vast majority involving sub Adult Rhinos.... I think 3 Lions definitely could do it on very rare occasions....But Black Rhinos are among the most formidable and toughest prey items Lions will face... Edited by tigerburningbright, Oct 15 2017, 01:59 PM.
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| Skuller_One | Oct 18 2017, 08:21 PM Post #83 |
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3 Male Lions can kill even a White Rhino .. |
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| Mammuthus | Oct 18 2017, 11:09 PM Post #84 |
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An adult male White Rhino is a bit too much for 3 lions. |
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| Lightning | Mar 31 2018, 04:43 AM Post #85 |
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In real life, the mostly like outcome is that the rhino chases the lions away. However, in a fight to the death, the lions will win. It's extremely unlikely that a rhino will manage to hit a faster and far more agile lion. The lions will eventually latch onto the rhino's back and, after that, it's just a matter of time. The lions can stay latched on and keep biting for hours until the rhino finally collapses and dies. Edited by Lightning, Mar 31 2018, 04:44 AM.
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